His part didn't look like I expected (light & frank conversation)

Common Denominators between Male & Female "Circumcision"

http://www.noharmm.org/comparison.htm

Are Baby Boys Entitled to the Same Protection as Baby Girls Regarding Genital Mutilation?

http://www.noharmm.org/baer.htm

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You know what I think? Honestly?

Uncircumcised, circumcised, small, large, whatever color...

Penises are funny looking. Many of my gal friends agree wholeheartedly with me on this.

I mean really. Ladies, our bodies have been revered as art for centuries, but think about it--when was the last time you saw a portrait/statue of a naked man and DIDN'T giggle? They're just WEIRD. Granted, I'm not asexual or anything, but women's lower regions are just far more economical and logical, not to mention they're not... dangly.

This thread is priceless, even if it has exposed my somewhat juvenile sense of humor.

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I love it! Way to be light & frank as the subject line states!!!! Teee heeee!!!!

i absolutely love the subject line. i was laughing before i even read the first post. "parts"............

in ER a man came in and when i got his gown, my back was to him........i turned around and almost fainted. trust me, not one nurse throught i had "assessed" him correctly and one by one trooped to his room and "re-assessed"him. it had been surgically enhanced for length................think about it.........it just kept going............he was 78..........and his "below" hair was dyed red to match his hair on his head.........now, do you see why i loved my job???????????

in fact, my ER doc friend called yesterday and we were laughing about some of our "adventures" that we had together. we both miss that a lot. i miss him a lot. he's coming to see me this weekend. oh joy, oh rapture!!!! eye candy doesn't do this man justice and his personality is even better!

This is definitely a fun conversation. :-) But it did lead me to think about a few things seriously: I actually started reading some on circumcising vs. not circumcising, and I've come to the conclusion that I would never do that to a child of mine. I actually think it's a violation to perform an unnecessary medical procedure on someone who can't consent. I guess I didn't really think much about that before. I read a few websites about "genital integrity," and it was some interesting reading. Anyway.

After all this talk, I'm kind of hoping I'll get to see one of these uncircumcised parts one of these days..... Should I run an ad?

Sid

you know what...

this thread got me reading about circumscising vs. not circumscising too. i learned a lot trying to find stuff out... so thanks for the thread.

uh... i'm guessing wikipedia is G rated???

(I really am supposing that it is... Since the pic is getting displayed despite my porn filters and all... Anyhoo... Feel free to delete if inappropriate)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision

(There are pictures of penis' in this article, just a fore warning..... Thanks Alex! ~Rayna)

Okay I'm too paranoid to try that link at work. But I'll definitely take a look when I get home!

warning: circumscision may cause hair loss (joke)

lol

Off topic here a bit..... sorry.... I think this link is pure propaganda!! I just HAVE TO speak up!!!!

http://www.noharmm.org/comparison.htm

I've read so much about female genital mutilation vs- male circumcision-- there is NO comparison!! How can one compare completely cutting a sex organ off-- to taking a little skin off??

A female that has gone through genital mutilation will NEVER have an "O" -- ever-- it's gone! A male that has been circumcised can still have an "O".. again and again and again... it's still functional and gets to experience pleasure.

It's like comparing someone that has had their legs amputated to someone that perhaps is missing a couple toes!! Please!! What hogwash!!!

There biased comparisons really irritate me!!

There is absolutely NO comparison of male circumcision to female genital mutiliation!!! If so then a male should not be able to experience a climax like a female is not able to after she is mutilitated.

argh!!

Nothing against anyone here with this post-- just upset with some of the human race.

mandy ... a voice for all those dear souls that will never know what it's like to have the most pleasurable feeling in life.

Whoa. I think you left "light & frank" behind there, Mandy. Have you had your morning coffee yet?

But I understand finding a comparison like that offensive and wanting to mention it!

I am hereby opposed to messing with anyone's parts without their express informed consent. And even then I might not.



I've been dyin' to use that soapbox icon. Finally got my chance.....

Sid (on a caffeine high)

> How can one compare completely cutting a sex organ off-- to taking a little skin off??

Firstly, it isn't merely skin, it is flesh with nerves.
Secondly 'completely cutting a sex organ off' in the female case would be removal of not just the external flesh bits but the internal flesh bits as well (the vagina).

I think that it is in fact a fair analogy.

> A female that has gone through genital mutilation will NEVER have an "O" -- ever-- it's gone!

That isn't true. Females have at least three erogenous zones that can lead to orgasm (and there is arguably another). Most women find it easiest to orgasm in response to clitoral stimulation, that is true, but there is also a spot inside the vagina (that is not removed with female circumscision) and (arguably) another one further up, and one in the %#@&#! as well.

> There is absolutely NO comparison of male circumcision to female genital mutiliation!!!

Not when you call one 'circumscision' (which has positive connotations for some) while calling the other one 'mutilation' (which has negative connotations for everyone).

Now I'll admit that I'm fairly sure that it is in fact possible for a female who has been circumscised to have an orgasm in response to internal stimulation but I'm not 100% sure... On with the research ho...

wiki says:

Whether or not a woman who has undergone FGC can achieve an orgasm, especially those who have had their clitoris excised, is a question that tends to have more than one answer. Hanny Lightfoot-Klein traveled throughout The Sudan (where Type III is the prevalent form of FGC, ~90%) in the early 1980s asking women who had FGC this very question: "How often do you experience orgasm?" following sexual intercourse with their husband.[29] Most of the women she interviewed not only insisted that they did achieve orgasm, ranging from 90% of the time when they were young to 10% of the time once they had children, but were very open to talking about their experiences and thought it was amusing. They were able to describe in great detail exactly what an orgasm meant to them, often alluding to feeling like electricity had entered their bodies, or being unable to move for some time afterwards

I feel as if I am trembling in my belly. It feels like electric shock going around my body - very sweet and pleasurable. When it finishes, I feel as if I want to faint.

– Patient

I feel as if I have had a shot of morphine. My body vibrates all over. Then I feel shocked and cannot move. At the end, I relax all over.

– Director of Nursing

I feel as if I am losing consciousness, and I seem to love him most intensely at that moment. I tremble all over. My vagina contracts strongly, and I have a feeling of great joy. Then I relax all over, and I am so happy to be alive and to be married to my husband.

– Patient

Sometimes women would describe feelings of numbness and heart palpitations, which sounded more like anxiety attacks. Women who had undergone infibulation, the most extreme form of FGC, reported having both internal and external feelings of pleasure. About one-third of women interviewed said they experience some sexual sensitivity at the area of their scar as well as internally, whilst others reported only internally or only externally. In general women with Type III FGC experienced strong to very weak orgasms, depending on the severity of the procedure. There were also women who did not enjoy sex at all, as it was too painful or did not leave them with any feelings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_...l_consequences

(and of course many women with an intact clitoris don't enjoy sex...)

also... wiki mentions another spot too...

Lets take any conversation that is not "light and frank" to a new thread. I think the discussion has opened up something new to talk about and that's great, but lets go ahead and keep this one light and frank as the subject line says. This is just a quick reply, not to anyone specifially.

Along the lines of light and frank, I had to laugh at an edit I put into a post about a link, saying there were pics of penis'. I said just a fore warning. Fore.....warning, no pun intended!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!

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Along the lines of light and frank, I had to laugh at an edit I put into a post about a link, saying there were pics of penis'. I said just a fore warning. Fore.....warning, no pun intended!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!

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Too funny!!!

I always knew penises were different. The one thing that there are family stories about me is how I was always drawing penises - penises that lean to the right, some leaning to the left, some with a mole on it some with hair some without some erect, some flacid some circumsized some not cicumsized, some with a scar.... Makes me wonder how they didn't know that I as being abused with all those sexual drawing going on as young as three years old.

I remember I was on a band trip and my boyfriend had to use a urinal next to another kid in band (who was Jewish, he was uncircumsised) and my boyfriend came out of the bathroom and said "JESS I JUST SAW AN UNCIRCUMSISED PENIS" and I was just like " Oh okay whatever" cause it doesn't effect me? I just think it was funny -- but I never saw an uncircumsised one.

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Okay I'm too paranoid to try that link at work. But I'll definitely take a look when I get home!

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Hey I finally looked at the pictures! That's a lot of skin that's cut off. I didn't realize it would be so much. That's bizarre. And it didn't occur to me (before this thread) that the foreskin just completely pushes back when it's erect. Penises are funny. And I like the natural look.

Sid

So here's a funny memory (and yup, this is "frank" penis discussion): When I was a tiny little kid in the bathtub with my sister and brother, my little brother showed us his penis and said "look, it's a little man and he can blow bubbles" -- then he would pull the foreskin back so the head popped out -- just like a little bubble-gum bubble. That's why I remember the foreskin clearly and why it took me years to realize that adult parts weren't quite what I expected.... I finally figured out what they were missing. Hehe

Sidony

> I didn't realize it would be so much.

yeah, i didn't know it would be so much either.

> And it didn't occur to me (before this thread) that the foreskin just completely pushes back when it's erect.

Does it? That was unclear to me... It doesn't look pushed back very much in the pic... Uh... Is it that it moves back and forth during thrusting?

Where are the guys on the thread?????

;-)

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Does it? That was unclear to me... It doesn't look pushed back very much in the pic... Uh... Is it that it moves back and forth during thrusting?

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Are we looking at the same pic? Where there are 2 side-by-side pics? In the one on the right, it's erect and the head is completely uncovered where the skin is pushed away from it. It looks almost like a circumcised penis. Only on the left (when it's not erect) does it look way different from a circumcised penis.

Maybe I'm missing something..... Here's the exact picture I'm looking at (that's the same person in each image):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:U...ised_Penis.jpg

Sid

Uh... Yeah the head is completely uncovered but isn't the foreskin still covering most of the rest of the shaft? Its kinda hard to tell... But I thought it was... If so... Then does it rub up and down the shaft with thrusting? Maybe I'm imagining things...

Male circumcision is very different from female circumcision/FGM. I'm not going to get into it in this thread, in the idea of keeping things "light and frank," but I just wanted to say that. I've done a lot of reading about FGM.

I also want to mention that Wikipedia is not to be taken as an accurate source of information, because anybody can add and edit the information.

I've seen both circumcised and uncircumcised penises from working in an adult peep show, but I haven't had sex with both. Uncut penises look like elephant snouts (when flaccid). I felt nauseous when guys stretched that skin. I don't know why; I also get nauseous when other skin is stretched, so I don't think it's penis-related. I wouldn't turn down a guy, regardless of whether he was cut or not, if I wanted to have sex with him. Frankly, I'm curious if it feels any different; I know many women say no, but I've heard some say yes. I could call it "research," LOL!

I think the guys might be a bit frightened.

Not that I would know, of course....

but when the guy gets excited and becomes erect, the foreskin rolls back exposing the head. The foreskin is very thin and rolled backs to about an inch below the head. It stays right there until after orgasm. You really don't even notice it.

I MUCH prefer the uncut version. There is a famous porn star named Mark Davis who is uncut and such a hunk. Not that I would know, cuz of course, I'd never look at porn either! :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:M...s_DSC_0041.JPG

You're welcome.

> I think the guys might be a bit frightened.

hmm. how come?

Thanks Em. You are right... He IS a hunk. Lol

:-)