[whatbeanbelieved]

So this isn't the first time I've dreamed of an airplane crash or the first of the vivid, negative dreams (I've been having these since I broke up with my boyfriend about ten days back), but this one was particularly disturbing and I'd like an interpretation, if anyone has one...

This dream was almost divided into two planes (not two airplanes, two ... realms or platitudes of existence). In both realms there were two guys and a girl, and I kept oscillating between being the girl and observing her.. so I was almost not directly involved, but sometimes I was. In both realms there was a dictator type person. The theme was essentially that a plane was crashing in a particular town, and while initially we were the witnesses, we became involved in helping out and trying to save the town, but something really bad would happen to ONE of us - one of the two boys, the one I/the girl was not involved with, but who I was possibly more fond of, but who was also romantically or semi-romantically interested in the boyfriend type figure.

So the first time around, we were in a town run by some sort of evil lady. We witnessed a plane having troubles because of a storm (it was abnormally close and kept swaying) and eventually lose control over a really high bridge. It then snapped into two and although all people mostly got out, it crashed. SOMEHOW this meant that this huge pipeline that was connecting the bridge and the really far away ground was clogged and needed to be cleaned and taken care of. At this point I had a premonition in the dream that the male friend would die by being crushed by a boulder that would come out of the pipeline while we cleaned it. The evil lady was determined that this would happen. So while I stood vigil for the boulder, the two boys played/hid out... but mostly just played like military games in their houses. The boulder came out and was discarded. Except the evil lady was determined and somehow, the male friend found himself somewhere, alone, and ... almost like Final Destination stuff, some complicated turn of events led to him dying (like the boulder came and bounced off one side and then another and I kept expecting him to die by being crushed, but it then bounced on something that released a small pipe that repeatedly hit him in the face until he died.

Oddly, by this point, I was no longer a part of this dream, but watching it, like a premonition. At this stage the dream became more recognisably my reality -- the boyfriend type person turned into my ex, the male friend was replaced by a female friend I kind of recognise from my world, and I was hugging my ex tightly and almost a little desperately. We decided to leave town because of my premonition or some sense that the evil dictator GUY was going to make sure someone died. So we tried to go get taxis, which was a huuuuuuuge line. I kept running around, which I have been doing IRL for a long time, in the context of my ex. And I kept thinking I couldn't stay at my ex's because he would be offended, but I couldn't leave for the same reason, and made this absurd plan to have the cab pick me up at 4 am. Anyway, then, for some reason we were in a ditch, a loooong trench, and the male friend (who was male again - or possibly was there in addition to my ex's female friend) turned up. And then, I'm forgetting how, but it was pretty violent, he died again.

>_<

Help?

[medkev13]

I'm reading the post now. Just want you to know that I intend on giving an interpretation for you

[medkev13]

I want to look at this dream in two different ways, since it's such a big chunk to take down. First, we'll look at the themes. Second we'll look at the characters and details. I'll try to keep the characters etc. within each theme point. Oh, and as the realms are split, I'd say that your subconscious is pointing out that what happens within yourself (one realm), is expressed without (the other realm). It's like if you bottle something up long enough you become bitter.

In the first part, it seems like everything is about you exclusively. Like watching a movie of yourself in costume...
:: Themes ::
- Town is ruled by an evil lady.
The town is typically a depiction of your psyche/personality. It's where all the different characters interact/reside (and each character is a part of yourself). The first thing you note, though, is that an evil lady/guy is ruling the town. that she turns to a he I'll address at the end. For now we need to see that this is a shadow self (a personification of the worst things you see in yourself, since you chose the word "evil"). And we need to address that you see this part of yourself as ruling the rest of your psyche. Something's taken over, and the first thing to ask is "What is it about yourself that you hate, and how is that part of yourself managing to rise to the surface?" In dreams, one of the goals of the subconscious is to allow ourselves to face these things that we can't do in the waking world, so the next question is "Why do I hate this part of me? What makes it bad?" But you still have to accept it as your own, and make it something positive, so you finish by asking "How can I take this flaw and turn it into a strength?" set these answers aside for later reflection.

- Storm looming close, hinting at destruction.
The key here is that there is some external catastrophe approaching, which has nothing to do with the evil lady. It's something that could be either a situation in your life, or a conflict you are having either within yourself or with someone else. Based on the second realm's overlap, I would hazard a guess that it has to do with your ex and you having to choose whether to stay close to him or not. The storm tears a plane apart. What in your life are you seeing being threatened by some rising/looming conflict? What will be "torn apart" by this conflict?

- Transit bridge is damaged/clogged.
Either way, the crash blocks a bridge connecting the town to the surrounding area (as you are connected to the world - this is the imagery of how you relate to others and how you interact with others, not simply a physical blockade between you and the rest of the world). How will the damage from the conflict keep you from being able to connect/interact with others? What sort of cleaning up is going to have to be done?

- Evil lady is trying to kill male friend with debris.
So now we see the evil lady again. This time she is targetting the "male" friend of yours. Up until now you have made no real mention of your ex's alternate character, but here we see this male character that ends up not being the ex. As every character is an aspect of the dreamer, I have to say that he is the expression of your masculine traits. Interestingly, the only other female character aside from you is seen as evil, and the male character is seen as a victim. What about your feminine side do you see as bad, and what about your male side do you see as submissive/vulnerable? It seems that you feel your vulnerability is being threatened, and since it's a boulder from the debris that is being cleaned off the bridge, I'd hazard a guess that you fear the clearing of damage is going to bring up something that you've been keeping back. The vulnerability and damage caused is what you fear will lead to this boulder wreaking havoc and eventually killing the vulnerable part of yourself.

- Friend dies, despite hiding out.
You've hid this friend, and in hiding, he and the guy that ends up being your ex were playing games. (Did you not take your relationship with your ex seriously, or did you see your ex not taking it seriously?) Since this is still all about you, what are you not taking seriously about yourself? Is your hiding away from what you fear will destroy you really just you playing at trying to avoid pain? A thought here - by destroying the vulnerability of the victim, you may actually end up with a cold calloused outlook on things. Tread carefully and remember to keep everything in moderation.

:: Second Realm ::
- Evil lady is now male...
Who in your life (that's a guy) do you outwardly detest? What makes him so terrible and how do you see that in yourself? The evil lady is the negative things within you, but we project those things onto others causing us to not like certain people we meet.

- One male friend is female, the other is an ex...
As the ex seldom shows up in the first realm, this is irrelevant... However, the female eventually dies. What traits do you see yourself and this female friend sharing? Same rule of projection applies to positive traits. These shared strengths and positive traits are what you may feel are being threatened by your shadow lady.

- Premonition of something bad going to happen...
I see this overlapping with the storm in the first realm. You fear that something is going to go wrong and you link that to a distrust toward this dictator man. The man and the evil lady are one and the same, so this is you recognizing the projection.

- Trying to decide whether to leave the ex's house or stay...
Was this the case with breaking up with him? Were you torn between wanting to stay or leave? This seems to fit in with the plane in the first realm, as it was "torn in half". You see here that regardless of what you pick, there is still damage that will happen and clean up to be done.

- You are in a ditch. A long trench...
Would you call this "being in a rut"? That very well may be exactly what it is - the subconscious showing you stuck, unsure of where to go next or possibly even stuck at where you are.

- Female friend dies in male form ( I say this because the subconscious has already shown you the death, so you probably just put two and two together and inserted the male form since you already knew he died)...
I find it interesting that in the first realm, your ex doesn't show up until almost the end, and then in this one the other friend doesn't show up until almost the end. This further tells me that the other friend is what you fear will happen to you because of this great conflict. The finale here is you looking at yourself, having to face the damage of whatever the conflict might happen to be.

This was a really heavy dream, with what seems a bad ending. I'd like to leave you with a couple of thoughts...
::: Dreams about yourself are almost always never written in stone. You have the self revelation open to you, all you have to do is take the knowledge and prepare yourself to avoid the worst.

::: More importantly, death in a dream is never literally about death. It's transformation and the changing into something else. This male version of you might simply be prone to change after the conflict blows over. The key is to make the change a positive and healthy one.

[whatbeanbelieved]

...wow.

Thank you so much for taking the time to do this. This is the most detailed and exhaustive interpretation of a dream I've ever received, needless to say. Usually I have these incredibly vivid and strangely negatively charged dreams and I live with the images in my mind for a long while after. But this helped make sense of those images, both individually as individual themes and also in conjunction with one another.

A lot of what you've said is also similar to what my therapist and I were discussing the day before. Or, a lot of your interpretations sort of ... bolster those ideas we were having. Namely, with regard to my anger, which is ... quite an issue, she suggested that in some senses I have divided my self into that which is visible and permissible, and that which is real, and which I keep on the inside, the huge and almost inadmissible amount of rage... which is uncontrollable sometimes and can be extremely destructive. Since my split with my ex (12 days back) I've been unable to really feel anything on the outside, but I have these bouts of intense rage and anger, or debilitating sorrow, and in some cases weird anxiety about random crap. So I guess that would explain to a great extent the "evil" and probably relatively "feminine" energies that are plotting to take over?

The conflict I believe does have to do with my ex and whatnot. I'm not sure why my subconscious perceives this as a looming tragedy. Perhaps because getting over an ex is almost like being bereaved and my subconscious is relatively traumatised in that department. This was indeed a ... difficult decision for me to come to, to accept breaking up as the alternative. It was mutual, but if he hadn't completely given up on the relationship, I would have kept trying. Which perhaps fits into the being unsure of staying or going, the being torn in half... perhaps also being stuck in a rut stuff. I can see the bridge as a connection clearly - also because that has too been a fear in the last few days, of cutting myself off from people and being unable to connect with them again.

There is one question I have. The masculine side - are we talking animus or a more subjective sort of interpretation of one's own masculine side? I'm not too sure what that is, along with the feminine.

Again, thank you so much for taking this much time out. I'm really grateful. I was needing a lot of clarity and also connection, and this really meets my needs for such.

Many many hugs!

[medkev13]

I -would- have said Animus...IF there was an animal being threatened and not a person. The animus is a souble meaning in dreams as it also relates to the primal part of your psyche. In this case, t's not the animus but simply the masculine parts of your personality. It's what you see of yourself that is more "boylike".

For the record (you can ask Triciadrich and JustDon'tAsk this) - I. <3. Dream. Interpreting.

It's never a problem for me.