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I have a natural remedy for insomnia which may or may not work for you. When you are lying in bed, relax your body, then hold your breath and count to 30 . If its difficult you can count to 20. Then breath in gently. Count silently in your mind. It interrupts thoughts that may be troubling you. Breath normally after that for a while, then do it again. You can repeat this indefinitely till you fall asleep. This technique also lowers blood pressure. When holding your breath, do not strain yourself but do it for a comfortable time. Good luck!
Thank you. I will try that out.
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Let me know if it helps.
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That's me pretty much every night. Some nights it's better than others, but the majority of the time I can't fall asleep in a reasonable amount of time.

It's kind of paradoxical for lack of a better term, because I can't fall asleep very easily if there is light/noise - the more the worse - but at the same time, sometimes when it's completely dark and silent, I can't just lay there and fall asleep without my mind wandering off into who knows where.and not being able to stop my thoughts.

I could be dog tired too the whole day, yawning every 60 seconds, the whole time feeling like I could lay down and sleep for 10 hours, but then when I do lay down it takes a while before I finally fall asleep.

Even when I was in the hospital this last time, they would give me melatonin and trazodone, the melatonin would definitely make me drowsy, but even with them both helping I would still have trouble falling asleep sometimes.

I think personally for me maybe it's just a matter of not being able to sleep if I'm just not 'ready' to, and being tired doesn't necessarily always mean I'm ready.

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Since I’m having trouble getting back to sleep I’m reading MSF and posting too, and hoping to get back to sleep soon. 😴
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Let me know if it helps.
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That's me pretty much every night. Some nights it's better than others, but the majority of the time I can't fall asleep in a reasonable amount of time.

It's kind of paradoxical for lack of a better term, because I can't fall asleep very easily if there is light/noise - the more the worse - but at the same time, sometimes when it's completely dark and silent, I can't just lay there and fall asleep without my mind wandering off into who knows where.and not being able to stop my thoughts.

I could be dog tired too the whole day, yawning every 60 seconds, the whole time feeling like I could lay down and sleep for 10 hours, but then when I do lay down it takes a while before I finally fall asleep.

Even when I was in the hospital this last time, they would give me melatonin and trazodone, the melatonin would definitely make me drowsy, but even with them both helping I would still have trouble falling asleep sometimes.

I think personally for me maybe it's just a matter of not being able to sleep if I'm just not 'ready' to, and being tired doesn't necessarily always mean I'm ready.
That sound like me. I tried melatonin it had a bad allergic reaction to.

Now bendryl was helping me sleep but it not working as well as it did.

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I'm new here.

Yes, I have been having trouble sleeping. I have insomnia, but my dreams are not the same as before.

I think it's gotten stranger during this pandemic. I've had weird dreams and nightmares about local politicians, about my sister, and about a friend who lives in a different state. I've never dreamt like this before. Most of the time, my insomnia and nightmares are due to past traumas. But nowadays, I'm dealing with some bizarre nightmares about current events or what could possible be dangerous for the future. I worry about my friends and family members getting hurt. I lost a friend to Covid-19 last year, so that was really challenging. The news frightens me, but I feel compelled to read it, nonetheless.

I wonder if anyone else has experienced really bizarre dreams and nightmares.
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Default Oct 15, 2021 at 02:44 AM
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I'm trying a tea I found called Extra Sleepy Time. I will let people know if it works at all.

It's currently 3:42 am where I live and I've been trying to sleep for hours. Took to Benedryl and it didn't help. I tried focusing on my breathing and doing a full-body tension release, and it still didn't get me to sleep. They don't really tell you what to do when nothing natural seems to work. It's not even that my mind is being hyperactive with a lot of thoughts it just won't shut down and sleep. It won't stop being awake, even when I'm not really thinking.

I forgot to mention something that has helped me in the past when dealing with worry and anxiety as a root of insomnia. And I'm not trying to make this into a spiritual discussion, but...just surrendering my situation to a higher power to deal with and worry about, has helped me let go of an issue. My thoughts were "I've analyzed and overthought this enough, someone else can take over. I'm letting you resolve this situation so I can sleep.." And this amazingly worked. Sometimes we just need to give ourselves permission to sleep instead of solving everything. And even if someone doesn't believe in a higher power, putting some kind of mental boundary between yourself and the worry/situation would probably help too.

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Default Oct 15, 2021 at 12:26 PM
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I don't know if this will help, but instead of just focusing on your breathing , try holding your breath and counting to 30 in your mind . After breathing in wait a few seconds and do it again. Just don't strain yourself . keep trying and see if you drift off.
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I don't know if this will help, but instead of just focusing on your breathing , try holding your breath and counting to 30 in your mind . After breathing in wait a few seconds and do it again. Just don't strain yourself . keep trying and see if you drift off.
I tried this but I found the exercise was uncomfortable because it's too long not breathing for me and causes me anxiety. I tried counting sheep and focusing on my breathing and this didn't work either. The sleepy time tea mellowed me out but didn't make me sleep, even when I combined it with two Benedryl. I mostly spent the night in meditation. I even tried the 4 count breathing exercise.

Going through medication withdrawal makes it harder. I've been dependent on a sleep aid for many years, my brain doesn't seem to know what to do without one.
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Oh well , sorry it didn't help. Maybe count to 15?

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Since I’m having trouble getting back to sleep I’m reading MSF and posting too, and hoping to get back to sleep soon. 😴
I hope it works out for you. I took a bendryl and it doesn’t always help me sleep.

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I'm having more problems than usual with sleep pattern.

I fall asleep with music on the radio, then wake around 1am, switch it off and go back to sleep. Forward to 3-4am when awake again and trying to process things that have infiltrated my brain. Up to an hour later, fall asleep again. Then the "fun" starts.

Vivid dreams, almost nightmares. Not necessarily about people I know, as I dreamt about a younger member of the Royal Family the other morning. How she got into my psyche I don't know, but very relieved she hadn't really died

Have heard it could be a result of the pandemic situation.
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I'm new here.

Yes, I have been having trouble sleeping. I have insomnia, but my dreams are not the same as before.

I think it's gotten stranger during this pandemic. I've had weird dreams and nightmares about local politicians, about my sister, and about a friend who lives in a different state. I've never dreamt like this before. Most of the time, my insomnia and nightmares are due to past traumas. But nowadays, I'm dealing with some bizarre nightmares about current events or what could possible be dangerous for the future. I worry about my friends and family members getting hurt. I lost a friend to Covid-19 last year, so that was really challenging. The news frightens me, but I feel compelled to read it, nonetheless.

I wonder if anyone else has experienced really bizarre dreams and nightmares.
I been having some really weird dreams and nightmares mainly about past trauma

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I been having some really weird dreams and nightmares mainly about past trauma
Ditto.

My T said that there are many parallels to this pandemic and our past traumas, including feeling powerless.

In former psychological studies, I could see how such memory nodes are connected, and perhaps why our unconscious plays out in our dreams.

It's hard to stay asleep and return to sleep after a nightmare.

I have interrupted sleep from nightmares all the time.

Last night I, being a disabled veteran during this traumatic pandemic, dreamt that a few of us were at war with the Middle East, and we captured a few terrorists in our private homes. We were waiting on authorities to come pick them up and send them to Guantanamo or something. Meanwhile, they were largely unvaccinated and unmasked, and they decided to start coughing while we held them captive. Although we were all masked, we didn't have proper eye and ear coverings, so I think it worried me about being exposed. They tried to weaponize the virus and/or use fear to find some way of escape. We didn't allow them to escape, but I woke up feeling worried that they tried to kill us with the virus. This was my dream last night/this morning.

Mind you, I never served overseas, nor have I ever fought in a war. I was trained, and I am a veteran, but I never deployed. I have no idea why I had that dream.

I also felt bad because I have friends from all over, including Pakistan and other parts of that world, who I think are refugees here. They are peaceful people trying to escape the terror of their land, and some have even experienced warzones. I recall meeting my friends in college, as I had very little knowledge of what transpired back there, apart from some of the stories that fellow OEF/OIF veterans have told me. Perhaps vicarious trauma ensued after hearing their stories months back, but I have no idea why. I don't believe in torture, and I don't know much about how our laws work for suspected terrorists. At any rate, I had some strange nightmare about it. I feel somewhat racist for having that nightmare, too. I don't know why I would have such a nightmare, but it felt very real to me.

Also, given my OCD, I would never reside with other people. In this dream, however, I did. That was also an odd phenomenon.
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I'm trying a tea I found called Extra Sleepy Time. I will let people know if it works at all.

It's currently 3:42 am where I live and I've been trying to sleep for hours. Took to Benedryl and it didn't help. I tried focusing on my breathing and doing a full-body tension release, and it still didn't get me to sleep. They don't really tell you what to do when nothing natural seems to work. It's not even that my mind is being hyperactive with a lot of thoughts it just won't shut down and sleep. It won't stop being awake, even when I'm not really thinking.

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I will try out the sleepy tea.

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You can also try kava tea to help relieve stress. I wonder if kava can be taken before chamomile tea though, or even together?? Does anyone know? What's in sleepy tea?
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I don't know if this will help, but instead of just focusing on your breathing , try holding your breath and counting to 30 in your mind . After breathing in wait a few seconds and do it again. Just don't strain yourself . keep trying and see if you drift off.
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My sleep is improving. I'm not tossing and turning nearly all night.

Waking less frequently during the night, woke for first time at 5am this morning. No nightmares, instead a feeling I was not alone (I was!). In my subconscious a hand was holding mine from behind. When I woke, didn't feel panicked by the experience. Just the opposite. Calm, peaceful, relaxed.
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Buffy, did you try it?
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