[Nicks_Nose]

I found this website that gives 11 tips. I think t is very helpful

I am bad for number 9 myself. I have been judging my self worth very much by my income or lack thereof. I need to stop seeing myself through employment processes.

How to Build Self Worth: 11 Steps - wikiHow

[Webgoji]

Wow, that's quite a list. I have to admit, it actually made me feel worse about myself. Steps 3-7 and 10 are big killers for me. #3 is huge and I'm not even sure how to start approaching it.

Here's an example:
#3 Says to trust your feelings and not automatically respond to the feelings of others.

Okay, so when I worked in a Carbon Black manufacturing plant, my boss wanted me to weld numbers on the nozzle wands for the reactors so we could track them. When I got out there, I changed my mind. I decided to use a paint pen so that when maintenance cut the nozzles off the wands, they didn't have to grind off the numbers and I would just have to change my paint markings. Easier to trace, less time and easier on maintenance.

I tracked them for months and went to present the data, but got my &$% chewed for 2 hours because I didn't do what I was told to do.

Another example is when I was working in a chlorinated hydrocarbons manufacturing plant and was asked to design a new sparger nozzle for a reactor. As I worked through it I found that due to the flow rate of chlorine, there was no sparger design that would do what we wanted (it was flowing in what was called a "jet" scenario). So I designed new mixers for the reactor tanks to help with the mixing.

I presented what I had found and got written up because I didn't get them a sparger design ... even though it didn't matter and I proved it with the math.

There are numerous other cases, both private and professional. Ultimately, I realize I'm rambling, but maybe someone could explain how #3 is supposed to work.

[Maskon]

Originally Posted by Nicks_Nose

I found this website that gives 11 tips. I think t is very helpful

I am bad for number 9 myself. I have been judging my self worth very much by my income or lack thereof. I need to stop seeing myself through employment processes.

How to Build Self Worth: 11 Steps - wikiHow

Thanks for sharing the link. Lots of info! I'm going to print it off and break out a highlighter.

[Fuzzybear]

[Faking sane]

Originally Posted by Webgoji

Wow, that's quite a list. I have to admit, it actually made me feel worse about myself. Steps 3-7 and 10 are big killers for me. #3 is huge and I'm not even sure how to start approaching it.

Here's an example:
#3 Says to trust your feelings and not automatically respond to the feelings of others.

Okay, so when I worked in a Carbon Black manufacturing plant, my boss wanted me to weld numbers on the nozzle wands for the reactors so we could track them. When I got out there, I changed my mind. I decided to use a paint pen so that when maintenance cut the nozzles off the wands, they didn't have to grind off the numbers and I would just have to change my paint markings. Easier to trace, less time and easier on maintenance.

I tracked them for months and went to present the data, but got my &$% chewed for 2 hours because I didn't do what I was told to do.

Another example is when I was working in a chlorinated hydrocarbons manufacturing plant and was asked to design a new sparger nozzle for a reactor. As I worked through it I found that due to the flow rate of chlorine, there was no sparger design that would do what we wanted (it was flowing in what was called a "jet" scenario). So I designed new mixers for the reactor tanks to help with the mixing.

I presented what I had found and got written up because I didn't get them a sparger design ... even though it didn't matter and I proved it with the math.

There are numerous other cases, both private and professional. Ultimately, I realize I'm rambling, but maybe someone could explain how #3 is supposed to work.

You need to read a book called "The Peter Principal". It will help a great deal in understanding the ordinary mindset, which it's clear you do not possess.

[Did you not go to public school? Is this your first experience with getting in trouble for being smarter than the people in authority over you? I would find that incredibly surprising.]

Your "superiors" feel threatened when you improve on their systems without consulting them.
They see it as an over-abundance of ego, which I guess it is, but theirs, not ours.
We just want to get a job done efficiently. I feel your pain.

This is what we have to do. I know that it is an INCREDIBLE waste of time, but we live in a world dominated by people of average intelligence, so we have to play by their politics...
We have to take our ideas to our supervisors in a written form they can understand with little-to-no verbal explanation, because we sound condescending when we get impatient with this process. Don't look too anxious, and whatever you do, DO NOT look over their shoulders unless they invite you to. Speak only when asked a question; don't respond to any puzzlement by anticipating the question and answering pre-emptively. Give the shortest answers possible. Avoid theories and tangent ideas. Confusing them makes them defensive.
Bear in mind that the goal is to get the magic key: management's approval.
If we don't play dumb, we might not get it.

I'm sorry for the way this is affecting your personal sense of self-worth, and I know that it's hard to play the underling game Realize that there ARE people in the world with whom you'll relate more comfortably, and maybe someday you'll collaborate with some of them Until then, understand that the rules of self-esteem sometimes need to be briefly suspended for the ultimate purpose of getting a job done politely without offending anyone. It's business, not personal.

p.s. All of this is much easier to explain than to practice, so don't be too hard on yourself if you blurt out a few answers at first

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