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Old Dec 20, 2010, 01:39 PM
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Did you know that if the football team of an abusive man wins he is more likely to abuse then?!

I find this remarkable and just thought I would share this with you also as a warning, and see what you make of this?

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Old Dec 20, 2010, 01:59 PM
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Thanks for sharing, Tatyana2009. Much that goes on is hard to understand.
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Old Dec 22, 2010, 04:53 AM
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actually, there is a part of the brain that behaves just as if it is participating in what it observes, it's a big part of how we learn... football especially, is a violent activity, rewarded for excesses and acting out... it's only reasonable to observe that people who indulge in vicarious violence, would at some point increase their actual trial or indulgence in the real thing,,, i know there has been a lot of debate about this, but i have seen for myself, how witnessing violence leads one to mimic it. thanks for bringing this up,, Tatyana,, best wishes,, Gus
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Old Dec 22, 2010, 01:28 PM
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@Gus:
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actually, there is a part of the brain that behaves just as if it is participating in what it observes, it's a big part of how we learn...
Yes, that is true. This is why violent video games for kids is highly uadvisable. There was a research that showed that kids that were exposed to 15 mins violent vidoe game responded with apathy and lack of empathy to situations (in the test - the tester's box of pens and pencils 'accidently' fell off the desk and spread around the floor - those that were exposed to the videos were more likely not to move from their seat to help).

But in my original post the point I was referrin to not that the actual game increases the odds of violence. Rather, its the fact that THE WIN of the supported group - increases the chance of violence in abusive men.

If you are looking for explanation you can say that this win makes the abuser feel stronger and more reassured, that his ego is granted and the 'positive' stroke of winning serves as a reassurance and granting power.

I am interested to know what others think - as to why this might happen.

As for your comment - statistically it is also more likely for domestic abuse to occur during holidays and during family dinner / lunch time. There is no violence in that.

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it's only reasonable to observe that people who indulge in vicarious violence, would at some point increase their actual trial or indulgence in the real thing,,,
My sister loves football. She gets very involved in the game but would never be violent.

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i know there has been a lot of debate about this, but i have seen for myself, how witnessing violence leads one to mimic it.
I think the acting out means that the person has this inside him. No matter how much football I watch I will not be violent. Please do not make the mistake of putting external reasons for abuse. Its the abuser that has to take full responsibility.

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thanks for bringing this up,, Tatyana,, best wishes,, Gus
You are welcome. Glad you found it stimulating. And thank you your best wishes I wish you well, happiness and peace for 2011.
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