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Old Jun 25, 2018, 08:02 PM
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Ok so I have been in massage therapy school for 9 months. I was a abused wife from a past marriage of 10 years and I was choked a lot. So when we started body work I would go through emotional flashbacks and visual flashbacks when my neck was massaged. As students we practice on each other. I always kept my composure but I fidget and hold my breathe a lot.

I have become the running joke of the class that I hate having my neck touch and I can't keep still. The teacher even jokes about it.

I finally told one woman and immediately regretted it because she said that I just needed my neck massaged more to get over it and I need to just let it go and stop holding on to emotions.

My trauma therapist feels I need to write my teacher, without giving away any personal history, and tell him my neck is off limits and as for the insensitive woman exposure therapy does not work for trauma, it works for fear of spiders, as it can re-traumatizes people.

I have sat down to try and write the email but can not figure out how to do it without disclosing anything. I need help writing it.

I might just want to tough it out until I graduate in 5 more months.
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Old Jun 25, 2018, 08:33 PM
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Five more months is too long. I hope you nail the instructor. I like just saying that your neck is off limits and you don't want to talk about it further.
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Old Jun 25, 2018, 09:36 PM
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We did some massage in manicure school. Are you able to massage other peoples necks?

Forget about the insensitive woman. Your ultimate goal is getting your license. So you need to be able to pass the test. Also to get the required hours of instruction in, which probably include receiving a neck massage? I would see if that is a requirement. If it is, then maybe find someone you can trust?
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Old Jun 26, 2018, 03:47 AM
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We did some massage in manicure school. Are you able to massage other peoples necks?

Forget about the insensitive woman. Your ultimate goal is getting your license. So you need to be able to pass the test. Also to get the required hours of instruction in, which probably include receiving a neck massage? I would see if that is a requirement. If it is, then maybe find someone you can trust?
It has been so hard for me to massage others head/neck/face. I would be sweating bullets and we now have the public coming in every two weeks and I had one women that wanted 20 mins on her head and face because she gets migraines.

It is required I participate in bodywork and I have and there are two girls that I feel more comfortable with.

The most insensitive thing is we had a lecture on how we will get clients that have had trauma, been sexually abused and will have emotional responses to massage or will request not being touched in certain areas.
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Old Jun 26, 2018, 11:11 AM
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Five more months is too long. I hope you nail the instructor. I like just saying that your neck is off limits and you don't want to talk about it further.
I agree.

Once you are working, you have the ability to decide if you are going to massage certain areas or not, so being uncomfortable massaging others head and neck shouldn't matter in the long run. Simply saying that you cannot participate with neck massages for personal (or medical?) reasons should be sufficient.

Does your PCP know about the abuse? A note from your T or PCP excusing you from that part of it would make it where the instructor can't count it against your grade as well, in my understanding. It's been a while since I've had to excuse myself from a class for mental health reasons. It gets complicated when it's not medical.

I hope it works out and the instructor doesn't cause problems.
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Old Jun 26, 2018, 11:22 AM
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To the other posters - this course is probably licensed by the state. Its like, you have to take so many hours in each phase, and they detail each phase, and the instructors send the records to the state, and it becomes part of your permanent record. That way, when you go to get a massage from a state licensed masseuse, you have some assurance they are not going to break your neck! Or give you cooties - sanitation is also taught. Nothing is optional in the learning.

I think thats good that they teach about assault. Its too bad the teacher and students arent hearing it. It will probably be a question on the licensing test.
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Old Jun 26, 2018, 05:12 PM
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I think I am just going to suck it up. I just do not want to cause problems or create more attention to myself. I do not need anyone walking on eggshells around me.

I feel I have the issue conquered in regards to giving head & neck massage.
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Old Jun 26, 2018, 05:46 PM
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I think I am just going to suck it up. I just do not want to cause problems or create more attention to myself. I do not need anyone walking on eggshells around me.

I feel I have the issue conquered in regards to giving head & neck massage.
Is there anything you can do during the exercise that could help you keep calm and focused on the class and not on your history? I'm thinking along the lines of deep breathing or "happy place" type things, so that maybe the fidgeting might lessen a bit.

Since you want to try to make it thru the class, trying to find a way to cope with the body work would probably be the next logical step.
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Old Jun 26, 2018, 07:28 PM
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Is there anything you can do during the exercise that could help you keep calm and focused on the class and not on your history? I'm thinking along the lines of deep breathing or "happy place" type things, so that maybe the fidgeting might lessen a bit.

Since you want to try to make it thru the class, trying to find a way to cope with the body work would probably be the next logical step.
I do what I can already. Not like I jump off the table or anything just that comments are made that they can feel my uneasiness and that I barely breathe.
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Old Jun 26, 2018, 08:35 PM
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Exposure therapy by a knowledgeable professional is a valid treatment for trauma.

For example, such treatment is done here:

https://www.med.upenn.edu/ctsa/ptsd.html
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Old Jun 30, 2018, 09:20 PM
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Ok so I have been in massage therapy school for 9 months. I was a abused wife from a past marriage of 10 years and I was choked a lot. So when we started body work I would go through emotional flashbacks and visual flashbacks when my neck was massaged. As students we practice on each other. I always kept my composure but I fidget and hold my breathe a lot.

I have become the running joke of the class that I hate having my neck touch and I can't keep still. The teacher even jokes about it.

I finally told one woman and immediately regretted it because she said that I just needed my neck massaged more to get over it and I need to just let it go and stop holding on to emotions.

My trauma therapist feels I need to write my teacher, without giving away any personal history, and tell him my neck is off limits and as for the insensitive woman exposure therapy does not work for trauma, it works for fear of spiders, as it can re-traumatizes people.

I have sat down to try and write the email but can not figure out how to do it without disclosing anything. I need help writing it.

I might just want to tough it out until I graduate in 5 more months.
I am sorry that this has happened to you.
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Old Jun 30, 2018, 09:20 PM
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Five more months is too long. I hope you nail the instructor. I like just saying that your neck is off limits and you don't want to talk about it further.
I completely agree!
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Try Emdr. It is for trauma but its kinda hard to find a T that does it.
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