The wage pay gap and women’s “laziness�

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“That's a unique case though. Generally men's sports are far more popular. And its a national team.

And if you are generating more income, you should get payed (paid. Thanks bot) more. Male players in a lot of sports are simply more valuable as an investment. In the case of the US women's soccer team, I think they had ground to stand on in demanding more.”

“They didn't even have the grounds to demand more. The women's team was offered the same structure as the men's team years ago. They turned it down in favor of more guaranteed money and benefits. This of course usually results in less pay, but it takes care of the players during down stretches where popularity wanes.

It wasn't until recent years when the women's team started winning a lot of games and they realized that they could have made more money with the original deal that they've decided that they "got screwed"...which of course they didn't get screwed, they simply got the deal they wanted. US Soccer then offered them the same structure again 2 years ago that the men have. They turned it down again. It seems, they wanted a bonus structure like the men, but wanted to keep the guarantees and benefits. They wanted the best of both worlds, in other words, they wanted a superior pay.

The women were never treated unfairly. And they lost their case, twice. People seem to think they won. They didn't. The mainstream media may have liked to portray the women as victims and leave out vital information, because a grift is a grift and that is what media is nowadays, but the courts still had to make decisions based on reality, and the reality is the women didn't have an argument. What happened is US Soccer settled with the women, because 1) they didn't like the negative press from disingenuous media, and 2) fighting appeals is costly.”

“Actually, they were rejected multiple times. They didn't settle their suit.

The women's team was offered the same deal as the men's team. They turned it down in favor of guaranteed money rather than bonus enhanced money. Bonus structures generally pay more, but are higher risk. The women when they structured their deals, were not yet popular, so a guaranteed pay scale worked better for them. What happened is that they then won the world cup and soared in popularity and were upset about the money they could have been making if they'd taken the original deal they were offered. They then of course were offered the same deal again...and they turned it down again. They wanted a bonus structure like the men, but also wanted the benefits and guaranteed money they had before. They failed to win and lost their appeal. They never won their case, because they didn't have a case(despite mainstream articles that were pro USWNT and didn't evaluate the facts). The only situation in which they had an argument was in some of the small per diem stuff and hotels, which were small peas and easily corrected. What happened is even though they lost their case, US Soccer settled because it was getting too expensive to keep fighting it. Appeals are virtually endless for this kind of thing. So now instead they created a system in which the women get half of the men's money, but the men also get half of the women's money. It's a system that quite frankly doesn't make sense.

And no, the women's team is not more popular. They had higher revenue and viewership numbers for 2 years only, and those were years in which the women played in the world cup and the men didn't. The men had more viewers for a quad game with Germany than the women did in the world cup final.

And why do the men get more views? Quite simply because it's more entertaining to watch. The women's US World Cup team played a group of under 16 boys in Dallas and lost by like 3 points. They were crushed by a bunch of pubescent boys. You can poke fun at the USMNT, but if they payed the USWNT, they would win 80-0. The men are simply a lot faster and a lot more entertaining to watch in most sports. It's just biology. But despite this, the OP still rings true. If women want female athletes to make more money, all you ladies have to do is watch the games. Watch the WNBA, buy tickets. The game may not be as fun as the NBA, but those ladies work hard and it would be nice if they earned more money, but they aren't going to earn more money unless women support them. If every feminist who is enraged that female athletes made less $ than male athletes decided to watch the games, then these female athletes would make a LOT more money. Support your fellow women.”

“I don’t think this is accurate, but let’s give this argument the benefit of the doubt and say okay, women’s soccer is more popular than men’s because it has been more successful.

That is 100% not the case for NBA and WNBA. NBA subsidize WNBA every year or WNBA will seize to exist. Now why don’t you ladies put your money where your mouth is and buy some season tickets and sports apparels from the WNBA.”

“Maybe it’s because women are bad at negotiating? If they bring more viewership and presumably more ad revenue, why isn’t the business directors of those professional organization negotiate a bigger cut for the players? Professional sportsmen and sportswomen have agents who do the negotiation, why aren’t they pushing for more money for their clients? The more money their clients make, the more money they make…”

“What you stated simply does not make business sense therefore it would have to be a conspiracy to keep women down. Now what would be the objective of that? In any business the primary objective has always been making money and expand margin. If these sports are bringing more money but women are getting less share of the profit, then it would be what I said earlier, women are bad at negotiating. If you said that is not the case and women are great negotiators, then there has to be a conspiracy to keep women down. I don’t see any other explanations to women bringing in more money and getting paid less.”

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I’m speechless at how stupid and redundant all of this is.