[ladytiger]

I am frustrated not for myself but for my boyfriend as I've been trying to help him find work and printing jobs out from work to have him apply if he has the skills. I passed his info to a recruiter that I was working with and he hasn't heard from him but did send him an email.

He lives in an area (the capital) where the job market there is awful yet the East Valley looks good or so that is still true. He got let go at his last job for being too slow on the register he was there for 6 months, that is working against him. He doesn't have a degree (not yet) that is working against him, same with not being employed working against him he has a lot of odds working against him that isn't helping him at all. He doesn't have a car he takes public transportation. Him volunteering is definitely out of the question he served his time doing that he needs a job to feed his tummy and pay his bills he needs a job NOW!

He only had one interview where I work but in another department and he didn't get the job. I am not sure what else to tell him, he doesn't want fast food as he's tired of doing that kind of work and wants to do other customer service jobs not sure in what the rest you really need skills and a degree. He can't afford school that's out of the question he needs something where it will help him take care of himself and everything will fall into place when he's ready. I have been in arguments with him on jobs as I feel I am doing everything yet I am still part time I have confidence in getting a 2nd interview and a hire with another sister college.

Anyway, he has been going to the career center every day applying and still nothing. I told him to take an assertive approach which I had to do because of the outdated job advice and the useless crap of today's job advice you need a job to survive then do other stuff when things fall into place you need a job that pays good to the point you can take care of yourself and burger joint isn't gonna do it for you at all! You have goals both personal and professional those need to be worked on first, how many more its a job it is some money are you gonna keep hearing? It will get to the point that it will be part of your psyche that you're just good enough for part time work. Having too many pt jobs is hurtful on the resume even if it means that is what's available right now. He needs full time they are out there you just need x amount of experience and a good stable job reputation behind you.

I told him tell these employers what you want and what you don't want be assertive that you want a job and negotiate what you will be willing to take. oh no, my approach is wrong according to a lot of people those bills don't pay themselves! How many more keep trying does he need to keep hearing? How about welcome aboard you're hiring? I told him my attitude now is I am a price not slave labor I am not a donkey or a cow! Whether I have the experience or not, I value myself as an employee and he needs to have that belief.

Seriously, I am just venting as I don't know what else to tell or guide him. He has more customer service experience than me, but he knows I am on my way to full time and victory I just need him to be on the same page with a job and I know he is struggling so bad and feel he is depressed. I did cry the other day it pains me so bad to see him like this.

I don't know I just need to vent about the lack of interviews my man isn't getting he needs serious prayers, what is it gonna take for him to get a job?!

[Little Lulu]

Unemployment is such a difficult thing, not only hard on the pocketbook, but also on the self-esteem. Do either of you have any contacts you could call upon to find a job? Frequently jobs are landed by knowing someone who is in a position to recommend you.

[Babymonster]

Where I live, there's not many places that will hand you a full time job right off the bat. When I moved, I had to get money right away to pay the bills. I worked 2 part time jobs (took all the shifts I could pick up, I was working well over 40 hours per week), I worked at a temp agency, worked at a day placement (show up and if we have work we will send you), basically I needed money so I took what I could get. In less than a year I was a manager at one of my pt jobs (I've been there 10 years now); I was also offered full time at the temp agency.

I'm not saying what he's doing isn't great, but he might have to take some s*** jobs while he's looking. Get his foot in the door and something might open up (if he can keep a good work ethic)

[ladytiger]

Originally Posted by Little Lulu

Unemployment is such a difficult thing, not only hard on the pocketbook, but also on the self-esteem. Do either of you have any contacts you could call upon to find a job? Frequently jobs are landed by knowing someone who is in a position to recommend you.

His mom but getting a job in the county is not easy. Doesn't mean your contact can get you a job I mean it's up to the managers to even call you the most your contact did was pass your resume a long. He still hasn't heard from the State on if he is eligible on getting an unemployment check hell if he calls that is a 90 minute wait and if he goes in person a couple/few hours of waiting to speak to someone!

You could get full time if you have backed up enough experience. I don't understand why people have to get a part time job then get a full time *** backwards! He told the recruiter he doesn't want part time, he's at the age where employers can use that against him.

[ladytiger]

Originally Posted by Babymonster

Where I live, there's not many places that will hand you a full time job right off the bat. When I moved, I had to get money right away to pay the bills. I worked 2 part time jobs (took all the shifts I could pick up, I was working well over 40 hours per week), I worked at a temp agency, worked at a day placement (show up and if we have work we will send you), basically I needed money so I took what I could get. In less than a year I was a manager at one of my pt jobs (I've been there 10 years now); I was also offered full time at the temp agency.

I'm not saying what he's doing isn't great, but he might have to take some s*** jobs while he's looking. Get his foot in the door and something might open up (if he can keep a good work ethic)

True. Suppose he took a **** job and let's say he wants to get a job that pays better let's say a bank job. What does the **** job have anything to do with what he can do at a bank job? 5 yrs ago, I was asked by the manager at the post office what does a grocery store job have anything to do with picking up boxes? He wants to move with me soon that is barely making a living and my plans are to move during the summer. Told him I don't know check out job fairs, may be he needs to check them out more often. He did go to a job fair where he was humiliated by the manager and told him I would never work for that employer!

Where we live, there's more part time jobs listed it seems here that's the only way to get a job. Yea, there are full time jobs listed the employers here don't wanna give you that. He told the recruiter he needs a full time job he is looking for him I'm like **** look faster! There's a grocery store he has tried to apply thousands of times not one word from them after he did everything right and it was the same store I used to work for 10 yrs they are terrible when it comes to calling people back he also went in person told the same ********.

Getting 2 jobs? good luck you're lucky if any employers here will accommodate your schedule for you to have a 2nd job. I mean I really don't know....I know he is tired of working those screwed up hours at jobs just wants something normal.

[Perna]

All jobs are worth something, can teach something if one wants. If he's slow on the register for example, he can get more practice. I once took a part-time job at much lower wages just so I could learn to do things I did not like in an office (filing, copying, data entry) and think about how necessary they are even though I don't like doing them. It can be so easy to think that we are destined for "better" things but as Mike Rowe showed on "Dirty Jobs" http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/dirty-jobs/and his new show, somebody's got to do those jobs and they're very needed and sometimes quite lucrative (Filthy Riches) - http://channel.nationalgeographic.co...thy-riches-qa/

I loved my first job out of college working at my local Sears store in customer service; I could see and think about the whole corporation and what makes a business tick and what "departments" there are and what I might like to learn. A single store can give you an entire business education if you let it -- sales, accounting/finance, customer service, transportation, logistics, administration, marketing, research and development, security, etc.

One gets into a single store of a large chain group and get to know people in the store and you get an idea of what might interest you or not. I actually had an interview in my Sears after I'd been there for about a year with the security manager to be on the security team. There's all kinds of things to see and get into even from a simple job, if one has imagination and interest.

[Babymonster]

Originally Posted by ladytiger

True. Suppose he took a **** job and let's say he wants to get a job that pays better let's say a bank job. What does the **** job have anything to do with what he can do at a bank job?

Getting 2 jobs? good luck you're lucky if any employers here will accommodate your schedule for you to have a 2nd job. I mean I really don't know....I know he is tired of working those screwed up hours at jobs just wants something normal.

#1 it pays the bills.
#2 my s*** job turned into a managers position which is a skill I can take almost anywhere.
#3 you can start moving up the ladder. I know lots of people who moved from retail operations (store) to cooperate.

Perna is right, all jobs are worth something. And sometimes you need to start from the bottom more than once. If he's waiting to find a full time job anyway, he might as well work in the mean time. Or not. Really I guess it depends on your needs.

[ladytiger]

If all people looked at jobs that way many would have a huge attitude change. The burger job fair he went to last month started at 8.50/hr, really? How do you pay rent? Not the way how rent is going up that only pays for bus passes and his cell phone bill. He does have a bit of managerial behind it that he managed 6 people which other managers didn't like the only reason why it was 6 people it was in a very small building doing mortgage sales these managers wanted to see managing large amounts of people.

Manager positions I've seen all want a degree. I know he told me he is tired of being at the bottom when he has personal goals for us yet can't obtain them with min wage job. Like I said, not sure what else to tell him but this is hurting our relationship for us to move further and start our lives together; I'm just really worried about him. I hated my bagger job 10 yrs ago thought it would be a good thing it turned into a nightmare would never wanna work in grocery retail again so glad I work in a better environment actually learning something.

Anyway, yea, I mean I don't know wish there was something else I could do. Something just wasn't feeling right when they started cutting his hours down to working 2 days to being off a week.

[Perna]

I think it is hard if we focus just on the money and what we want "now". Without a job he is not paying rent either and I wonder that he has a cell phone bill; my husband has an AT&T "Go Phone" that costs us $25 every three months. I can see needing a phone but one does not need a smart phone if one cannot afford it. My smart phone costs $90 a month ($270 every three months, over 10 times as much as his).

I would be tempted to find a burger job in walking distance work on my weight loss and health issues at the same time as I made a little money. He could find a company/corporation he likes working for and then work on a degree part-time. Many companies will even help pay for courses Your Financial Aid Options | UMUC I got a second degree and took multiple independent courses while working and the two went hand-in-hand, what I was learning contributing to my job and my job giving me experience to use in understanding what I was learning.

[Babymonster]

Sorry it sounds like you really care about your boyfriend and are trying your best to look out for him. Job hunting is no fun

[ladytiger]

Yea, people are worried how are they gonna pay this and that nobody knows now how long their jobs are gonna be around. I know this is gonna kill his self esteem even further if he has to take another low paying job but he does need something now. Why is it hard for the recruiter to find him work? Told him he is gonna have to take that weakness turn into a strength how are you working on yourself on being faster. He still operates slow gee wonder why a lot of people get pissed off at him.