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Default Jan 30, 2022 at 03:28 PM
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Hi Ace,

I totally understand your concerns. Other than the reporting you've already done (it's not your job to enforce or follow up on the reports) I'd say your options are to continue to report as it occurs and maintain yourself a standard of ethics that is above reproach and/or find a new job. I would document all the reports you've made and all conversations, because regardless, you don't want to get thrown under the bus for what your supervisors are failing to take care of.
This is pretty much what I have done. They pulled a guy from another section to help with chromatography and I felt I had to tell him what happened. He hasn't touched the instrument since then. He's not even trained in some time sensitive analyses and that make me the only one who can do them.

We had a horrible meeting with the department head a few weeks ago. They had been trying to get an expert to consult about the procedure. I thought they were lying because they didn't want anyone looking at the corrupted data. But they e-mailed someone from the EPA and asked some idiotic amateurish questions that a novice might have. That was no help at all.

Then they gave me a hard time about what I was doing. I had used a procedure that we have been doing for 9 years to get time sensitive samples run in time and the department head said it was improper. She doesn't know anything about it. I told her that what I did - extending a batch beyond 24 hours -doesn't violate any rules. They had the QA manager look it up and I was right - it doesn't violate ANY rule. Then the other QA woman said that things are changing. So now we have to anticipate future rules?? I said we are bleeding customers and if people start using other labs we get shut down. They were totally unconvinced.

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Default Apr 01, 2022 at 05:38 PM
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I wonder which department was this lady placed in? (shocked)

One question, from my ignorance, what did this lady win by committing this fraud?

Is it that she’s ignorant or she only wants to do things as her tw@t wants?

Thanks god, she’s out of your department now.

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Default Apr 17, 2022 at 11:02 PM
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I have no idea why she thought it was ok to commit fraud. She seemed to think that it was an acceptable procedure. I had trouble convincing the program chief that the procedure was unethical. STUPIDITY. But ignorance of the law is not an excuse for breaking the law - especially when I told them that the procedure was unethical. It shows how little I am respected at work. They named the guy who they assigned to help me as the technical coordinator for my section - he is now my boss. He isn't even trained in many of the methods we run! I've been running those methods for a decade but I'm not considered good enough to be in charge of anything. I was a supervisor for 8 years in my last job too. I'm totally qualified. What a kick in the head.

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Default Dec 30, 2022 at 03:42 PM
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I read the data integrity rules and it said to report to HR if you feel unable to report to the lab administration. The lab got audited by the EPA last month but they didn't say anything about the ethics investigation or look at any of the bad data. So I reported it to the head of HR. Merry Christian maggots! I didn't actually do it out of spite though. It seems to be required of me to uphold data integrity.

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