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Default Jan 29, 2022 at 02:51 PM
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This feels just like leaving a toxic person within a toxic relationship. Exactly the same.

I’m trying to detoxify my emotions and thoughts but it’s challenging. Just like a toxic person does, my CEO has me questioning my own reality and feelings. He flipped the tables on me and made false accusations at me because I had confronted him with the truth. Just like a toxic person deflects, he deflects and then attacks. What a sick man, is what I should be thinking. .

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Default Jan 29, 2022 at 04:42 PM
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As with other toxic people, perhaps minimizing interactions (oral and written) with them is a good way to go?
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Default Jan 29, 2022 at 05:28 PM
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As with other toxic people, perhaps minimizing interactions (oral and written) with them is a good way to go?
Yeah, I think that's the way to go - it's pretty sad, really, that he cannot behave like a mature adult.

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Default Jan 30, 2022 at 07:18 AM
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I guess I take some solace in the fact that I am not the only one. The CEO had told a prior colleague of mine that she is a "traitor" when she left for another company after moving out of state. He reacted very poorly to my current colleague leaving as well, and gave her the same BS about having a "vision in his head of a position" for her. This is the same as what he told me a week ago.

What I now worry about is we are supposed to have our company-wide meeting on Thursday, which I would have to attend. I don't want to deal with it whatsoever, because in this meeting, I think the CEO would say something about my leaving to the whole company. We've already had a team goodbye lunch via Zoom. What more can people really say? Not much. I pray that he cancels this meeting, which happens fairly often.

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Default Jan 30, 2022 at 08:01 AM
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And.... I need to take heed to my own words of wisdom and advice on here. I tried to give as many positives as possible to my CEO when I gave my notice, coupled with some honest feedback about the high turnover in my department, the lack of leadership within my dept, and the large workload that led to burnout. If he cannot take that feedback maturely and respond in a mature manner to that, then it's HIS problem, NOT mine.

I need to adopt a healthy mentality about this. He is indeed toxic, and he has proven that to me several times over with his behavior and responses. And, I don't need to participate in the negative, toxic drama, since that's what he wants to create here, as I am leaving.

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Default Jan 30, 2022 at 09:33 AM
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He takes a business decision, which is you leaving for another company, and repeatedly makes it personal. Any further inquiries or communication by him should just be, I'm sorry you feel that way, it's not personal and end the communication right there.
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Default Jan 30, 2022 at 10:37 AM
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He takes a business decision, which is you leaving for another company, and repeatedly makes it personal. Any further inquiries or communication by him should just be, I'm sorry you feel that way, it's not personal and end the communication right there.
You're right, and thank you! Your advice is spot on.

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Default Jan 30, 2022 at 10:51 AM
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I am also sighing a BIG SIGH of relief. My long-endured job search is over, I am leaving an unhealthy work environment that caused me a TON of stress, and I am moving forward. I am very relieved.

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Default Jan 31, 2022 at 06:41 AM
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There's certain situations that arise that I don't know how to handle and need input.

So, the new company asked me to join their company-wide Zoom call this week, the week before I officially start work, because my new boss will be out on vacation the week I do start. So, that's a bit odd to me, but whatever, I said I would love to and will play it by ear given my workload and current demands. So, that Zoom call is on Wed - I just received the invite but haven't RSVP'd yet. I think I should attend simply because I've been invited and I feel its' the right thing to do, but I really don't want to do this this week, while I am still working at my old company. I find it to be a bit strange to straddle both simultaneously, and I will have to also ask my boss if I can work 8AM-5PM instead of 8:30 AM-5:30 PM in order to attend this meeting.

The second situation I don't know how to handle is my current company is also scheduled to have a company-wide meeting, this Thursday. Thurs is the day before my very last day of work. It's already been announced via email that I am leaving, I already had a goodbye zoom call with most members of the company, and I don't really want to be in the spotlight OR attend this company-wide meeting on Thurs -- I think I have to though? Often times, the CEO will bump the meeting to the next week, but I don't want to ask him to move it until after I am gone, and I also don't want to attend. Not sure what to do??

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Default Jan 31, 2022 at 07:50 AM
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What are the pros and cons of attending/not attending the Thursday meeting?
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Default Jan 31, 2022 at 08:17 AM
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What are the pros and cons of attending/not attending the Thursday meeting?
When you put it that way, I think I must attend. It would send a strong negative message to the whole company if I did not go.

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Default Jan 31, 2022 at 08:34 AM
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What is the negative message? It sounds like that message outweighs everything else.
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Default Jan 31, 2022 at 12:11 PM
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The negative message it would send is: I don’t give an F. Lol.

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Default Feb 01, 2022 at 06:54 AM
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This week presents several hurdles before I get to leave my awful company. UGH.

I wish I could have a week off before my next job starts. I really need to shake the negativity off of me from this job, and I cannot do that easily without some time in between. I am not thrilled that I have to go straight into the next position. And, I made that decision because the new company wanted me to start within two weeks, and I also cannot financially afford a week off in between jobs.

Life is unfair. I'm seriously pouting over this.

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Default Feb 01, 2022 at 07:11 AM
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This is quite the saga, i'm sorry you're going through this. Might want to have a lawyer on standby in case he tries to libel you.
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I am surprised you aren’t alarmed that you don’t have anything put aside for rainy day. Not being able to survive a week is a scary place to be. I’d make it a priority to start saving at least some money. I think it is recommended to have at least few months salary saved in case of emergency.

I know it’s hard to go from one job to another with no break but I’d say it is common for people to avoid gaps in employment so typically people go from one job to another with no break. Yeah and like you said new company don’t want to wait either. It’s hard of course.

Hopefully you have a weekend to rest in between. Is this office job or at home again?
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I am surprised you aren’t alarmed that you don’t have anything put aside for rainy day. Not being able to survive a week is a scary place to be. I’d make it a priority to start saving at least some money. I think it is recommended to have at least few months salary saved in case of emergency.

I know it’s hard to go from one job to another with no break but I’d say it is common for people to avoid gaps in employment so typically people go from one job to another with no break. Yeah and like you said new company don’t want to wait either. It’s hard of course.

Hopefully you have a weekend to rest in between. Is this office job or at home again?
It's 100% remote - this company has always been remote, since it started 5 years ago.

I am paying for all of my rent by myself which is pricey and very high for just one person to be able to afford. It cannot be helped right now, my lack of savings. I had to pay a $400 heating bill last month because the heat in my apartment is not efficient. I had to take that money out of my savings, which depleted my savings.

It's difficult for me to save money and get ahead, when it's largely my circumstances that prevent that. Once my husband moves back in this month, he will be paying half the rent and half the expenses, I will also have a much higher salary, and I can add to my savings again. But right now, finances are very tight.

And I honestly do not think that many people can financially afford to take a full week off in between jobs,. Most people's finances are tight.

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Default Feb 01, 2022 at 11:55 AM
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400? Heating bill? In a rental? It’s extremely high! How big is the place? I’d talk to management, it’s insane. They need to look into it. I’ve never heard of such bills! I live in a very cold climate and run furnace all winter long and I cannot imagine bills like this! Crazy

Oh I see, I thought your husband helps you to pay rent since he only rents a room somewhere, likely doesn’t pay as much plus if he is in your place a lot he’d be contributing. Ok if he doesn’t help, then I get it.
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Default Feb 01, 2022 at 12:36 PM
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I've already contacted the landlord, who is seriously CHEAP and who will not fix the heater in the apartment. It's a large, two story, two bedroom apartment.

My husband is paying rent at another home plus expenses - I did not ask him to help me pay for rent or expenses while staying with me, for just that reason. He is not a free loader - this was our arrangement. He pays for everything else for us - groceries, dinner out, evenings out, entertainment, etc.

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It’s insane. We never paid more than a $100 a month and we have three bedrooms two stories plus basement townhome. Do you have electric heater or something. Gas can’t possibly cause that much. I can’t wrap my mind around it. I’d get out of there. That’s a rip off
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