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Originally Posted by Oxidopamine
My best or closest friends aren't too bothered by it, or perhaps they just don't see me as manipulative. One of them I do consider fairly manipulative and he has the same view of me but we've never clashed.
I cant help but wonder, with TV shows such as Criminal Minds, House, The Mentalist (main character was "diagnosed" as a psychopath in the show) have an effect because they often label characters who aren't moved by much or don't take things seriously as psychopathic or sociopathic. From personal experience, not taking things seriously can certainly rub people the wrong way when it's expected you would care or take something seriously, which may be viewed as pathological. I figure there must be something else that leads people to conclude manipulative out of all other common pathological behaviour.
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My closest friends aren't bothered much by it either, but they won't go along with it. And my wife is starting to see it as a game too. Maybe I'm rubbing off on her.
Nearly all of them are insensitive and sarcastic - the "No BS" type of people. Perhaps is just a personality trait of theirs...
What's-his-face from the Mentalist was diagnosed as a psychopath? What episode? I've only seen a few episodes, but he seemed a few degrees of evil shy of such a diagnosis. I see what you're getting at... Although, everything's considered pathological nowadays...
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Regarding the bully comment - I feel bothered by this because I thought calling names like this is against the guidelines.
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Probably not. But if the mods are willing to overlook it, I'd like to see what the response is.
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Originally Posted by Open Eyes
Ahhhhh, I remember the first post I read of yours Michael. I couldn't quite know what to think other than that post really triggered me and the tone of it was not very inviting.
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Which post was that? And it triggered you? I'm sorry. I thought I was restraining myself fairly well compared to my other forum...
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I wonder what the bottom line is for you Michael. Are you here to learn how to be a more effective manipulator? Or are you truely wondering how you can just fit into a group of human beings that can be very entrapped by their own emotionality?
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Neither. I'm already quite adept at manipulation (recognizing it and controlling it, however, is another matter). I doubt there's anything PC has to offer in that respect. And I can already "fit in" with the crowd, although it's much more beneficial to stand out.
I joined this site nearly two years ago. What reasons I had for coming here have changed numerous times since joining. I'm not trying to learn about anything in particular any more. I just like the discussions, and I do learn about myself and others in the process.
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What activity presents that short spirt of brief satisfaction for you? This answer would reveal your true search of the answer to your question.
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A lot of things, most of which don't really tie into manipulation. I don't see where you're going with that...
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I am not so sure that your going to get a quick answer Michael that will satisfy your question.
What have you learned thus far?  Do tell.
Open Eyes
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Nor do I want or expect a quick answer. I'd much rather have a discussion with depth and helpful information.
I've learned that people can be accepting. I can now control my outbursts a bit better. I'm more collected in arguments. I've learned to accept people's decisions even if I don't agree with them. I now know that I'm not my father, and I don't need to cling to this hatred of him to keep myself in check. I realized that my inability to tolerate boredom is much worse than I'd previous thought. And I still don't quite understand boundaries. Healthy boundaries, anyway.