Admittedly I haven't been following this thread closely, but rouge198 made some good points about how victims of narcissistic abuse view their abusers. At the end of the day, whether you have narcissistic traits, or are someone who has been diagnosed with NPD, shouldn't make a difference to the victim. Abuse is abuse, whether the person has a personality disorder or not shouldn't matter. So from that perspective, I agree with rouge198. Regarding the other comments... it doesn't make a difference to me or change how I'd deal with someone who has been diagnosed with a personality disorder... it's simply not my problem, and I'd rather concentrate on building healthy relationships with healthy people.