ASPD Questions

Is someone with ASPD more likely to physically harm someone than someone who doesn´t have it. Also, if someone has ASPD does that mean they are sociopathic or psychopathic? I don´t think there is anything wrong with me but I know that I wouldn´t have a problem hurting someone. I am seeing a therapist for these things (not because I wanted to change but to learn about me). I don´t think I need to change seeing how this doesn´t really interfere with my life. I have read a bit on ASPD. But I would just like some input on this matter. Thanks.

I don't believe any research has been done on the topic. I suppose that would depend on the nature of the antisocial personality.

Neither. ASPD is a wastebasket term. Psychopaths tend to fall into the category, but most antisocials are not psychopaths, and not all psychopaths have ASPD. Sociopath is a layman's term, so there's no real criteria.

P.S. ... Martin?

This is not Martin.

Funny. That's exactly what Martin would say.

There is research on this topic, although it's riddled with flaws, some of which become almost unavoidable in a practical sense. For example, those who have ASPD often had conduct disorder. One of the criteria for conduct disorder is harm to others more so than non-conduct disorder children. Ideally, researchers would have to choose ASPDs who did not satisfy any violent-related criteria, although that's difficult. Researchers often take prison or jail samples because there tends to be a high density of ASPD people, which can lead to a self-fulfilling prophecy as the person may have committed a violent crime or the living conditions have made them more aggressive. In theory though, ASPDs would show greater anger, although that need to equal physical harm.

Most psychopaths have ASPD but not many with ASPD are psychopaths. Sociopathy is a general term that's not clearly defined and is neither a medical nor legal term (psychopathy is a legal term).

This is David. Haha. I don´t know this Martin guy but he sure sounds like a character! LOL

I don't think it makes someone any more likely to harm another person than someone who has something like intermittent explosive disorder or a mixed spell during bipolar. But I suppose a case can be made for having LESS reason not to. A lack of regard for the wellbeing of others, lack of impulse control, lack of understanding right/wrong as defined by society... But the severity of those symptoms varies from person to person. Not to mention the propensity to harm someone depends on the extenuating circumstances. Even if you regularly imagine harming people or just idly contemplate whether or not you could do it, there are probably circumstances where it may not be totally advantageous or even an attractive idea. I used to be extremely violent as a child & adolescent, but I've calmed down. Mainly because I don't particularly like to be on the receiving end of the violence that usually happens when you hit someone that isn't quadriplegic. I hope any or all of that was a useful response.

maybe not more likely, but if you're one of those douchebags that likes to **** with the quiet guy you might end up with a glass to your dome. Or I might wait for you outside.. Might follow you home. Might break some windows. You never know.

Sociopathy doesn't reach a criteria like what Michael has stated.
You can have ASPD and have psychopathic traits, some people are ignorant enough that they think psychopathy, sociopathy and ASPD are 3 indistinguishable terms.

I was curious about that because it all seems pretty much the same. I definitely do not see anything more than a severly blurred line between them, and I'm not entirely convinced that the difference doesn't lie in the person's I.Q. Level more than anything. But I'm new to this whole thing, so I'm learning as I go. Mostly learning that I'm not completely alone on this planet.

How I see it is that these 3 terms correlate with some things such as an absence of conscience, lack of empathy and sympathy but do not go by indistinguishable traits.

These 3 terms are highly distorted by stigma, so most people would keep it at "maniac" or "serial killer".

Hahaha I think you pretty much summed it all up!!

Thanks for the input.

learning about aspd, so are they likley to be physical or not, or just rough? Im intersted i this guy who has aspd, and I want to know, because he seems so intersting and we just clicked, I want to know will he end up beating me, cause thats not cool rihgt? thats all im concerned about

That, dearie, would be nigh impossible to say with so little information. There are more subtle behaviours which may indicate future violence. If you can recognise these, you may be able to make a more informed decision.

I'd say **** him all you like. If he assaults you or does something which makes you feel like you may be in danger (isolates you from friends and family, constantly pushes boundaries, makes threats, etcetera), then just leave. But my therapist tells me you poor normal folk can't simply disappear yourselves from a relationship, even if said relationship doesn't yield personal gain, because you have these bizarre things called "attachments"... Must be such a burden...

Well im not normal folk, I have HPD and its easy for me to detach, but thanks for the information

Then happy hunting!

Thanks your sweet

That's just his friendly guise. Don't be so easy to fool. Bwahahahahaha

I love histornincs and aspd, they are vile crude people, lol

LOL!! Yes, burden indeed!! Many times I have pondered how much more enjoyable life would be if only those I attach to were as easy to drop as those I don't. I have BPD- or attachments on steroids rather. Not many make the "cut", but those who do get suffocated in its clutches. Very frustrating indeed!

How much difference is their between this and and autistic disorder?

BPD, NPD, DID, ASPD, BP, D, BDD....WTF?! I thought this was just my personality? I mean...couldn't most folks, in the U.S. at least, be described by one of these "disorders?" ...and even if you read the symptoms list and the AAPD definition, and can honestly say, "no, I don't see myself reflected in these descriptions," then you're just a Classic Narcicist in Denial....uh...

Yes, they DO very simply describe any/every person out there... However, if they significantly impair your life somehow, THAT'S what adds up to the "disorder". I'm sure you wouldn't want people saying your depression is invalid because everyone DOES get depressed at some point in your lives... It affects you & everything you do. Most people can brush it off by watching a funny movie or calling up a friend. Just like most people can just knock off their criminal activity, connect to their emotions, & behave like a normal human being. But if it were that simple, would we even BE here?