[PrincessPlatinum]

Most people say psychopaths don't have a conscience, and I completely agree. However, there is another stereotype about those with ASPD that I would like to abolish. People say that sociopaths (no matter what end of the spectrum they are on) don't know love.

Today I'm shooting down that presumption.

I myself am a sociopath, diagnosed by a professional. I have lied, conned, stolen, cheated, and done everything in between. I have no shame when it comes to getting what I want, and am manipulative to no end. I'm cunning, ambitious, and am not afraid to throw someone under the bus to get my way.

But that does not mean that I have not experienced love.

When I was in sixth grade, I met the man of my dreams. I knew I was going to marry him someday. On Valentine's Day of that year, he gave me a vase of polyester roses, which I still have today.

We lost contact when we went to different middle schools, but I never stopped wondering what happened to him. We reconnected in my sophomore year of high school and began to date. During my senior year I broke up with him, saying that I needed to figure out who I was without him.

For eight months I stayed away and I spiraled into an unrelated depression. I hit the breaking point that November and realized that I still loved him. I asked if he would take me back, and he did. That week, we had our first kiss. When I went into the hospital again less than a month later, he proposed to me and I accepted.

We are both diagnosed sociopaths, and we managed to find love together.

So for those who think sociopaths can't feel love- think again. Because my fiancé and I defy the odds every single day.

[healingme4me]

There's something to be said for defying the odds and stereotypes

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Sweet Jesus...

[Mattmx]

I can't say I or anyone else I've met thats a true psycho/socio has ever felt real love. Just something to keep in mind, when you try to get a certain diagnosis, it's much easier to when you know the criteria and symptoms. It's all opinion with what you give the professional

[s1lver]

Isn't histrionic a disorder that causes one to be lacking in the ability to be genuinely intimate? doesn't the same go for npd and apd?

[Atypical_Disaster]

Originally Posted by Mattmx

I can't say I or anyone else I've met thats a true psycho/socio has ever felt real love. Just something to keep in mind, when you try to get a certain diagnosis, it's much easier to when you know the criteria and symptoms. It's all opinion with what you give the professional

I know a couple of people with ASPD that are in healthy relationships, but they don't feel love. Their respective partners know that and don't mind but yes, I've never met a true sociopath/psychopath that can feel love. I've never genuinely loved anyone in my life. It's just not how I'm wired.

I don't give two ****s about labels. I'm just me. I know I don't have the emotional range of a normal person, I've never felt empathy a day in my life, and I am completely remorseless. You can call that whatever you want. I don't care what the professionals call me. I know myself, and that's what's important.

[Mattmx]

Originally Posted by Atypical_Disaster

I know a couple of people with ASPD that are in healthy relationships, but they don't feel love. Their respective partners know that and don't mind but yes, I've never met a true sociopath/psychopath that can feel love. I've never genuinely loved anyone in my life. It's just not how I'm wired.

I don't give two ****s about labels. I'm just me. I know I don't have the emotional range of a normal person, I've never felt empathy a day in my life, and I am completely remorseless. You can call that whatever you want. I don't care what the professionals call me. I know myself, and that's what's important.

agreed, I just use the closest thing, and it's more to give others an understanding of me, not me. But love, that's something i've never really felt but i can imitate it fine and have healthy relationships

[redsoxrule]

I gotta agree with Mattmx and Atypical_Disaster, and although i can mimic it fairly well, i haven't experianced it. Always wondered when i was younger why everyone makes such a big deal over it. Although i cant imagine what it would be like, this thread has gotten me curious.

[MyUsername1111111]

I have been in love before. Albeit, for the wrong reasons, and probably not as "deep" as most normies feel it, but relative to my own emotional depth, yes, i was in love.

When the love parts ways, it can hurt, because the attention and care that i got.. the attention and love that my family never gave me.. was something unique.

For a second, an empath can be my key to happiness.. my light through the tunnel. But in the end, i can not sustain this feeling on my own. I become dependent on them to light my candle, and resent the fact that i can not feel what they feel on my own

Eventually, no matter how much i "love" them, i end up (figuratively) sitting on their faces

[Mattmx]

Originally Posted by MyUsername1111111

I have been in love before. Albeit, for the wrong reasons, and probably not as "deep" as most normies feel it, but relative to my own emotional depth, yes, i was in love.

When the love parts ways, it can hurt, because the attention and care that i got.. the attention and love that my family never gave me.. was something unique.

For a second, an empath can be my key to happiness.. my light through the tunnel. But in the end, i can not sustain this feeling on my own. I become dependent on them to light my candle, and resent the fact that i can not feel what they feel on my own

Eventually, no matter how much i "love" them, i end up (figuratively) sitting on their faces

That sounds like a very normal person in love..what is it that makes you not a "normie"

[Atypical_Disaster]

Originally Posted by MyUsername1111111

I have been in love before. Albeit, for the wrong reasons, and probably not as "deep" as most normies feel it, but relative to my own emotional depth, yes, i was in love.

When the love parts ways, it can hurt, because the attention and care that i got.. the attention and love that my family never gave me.. was something unique.

For a second, an empath can be my key to happiness.. my light through the tunnel. But in the end, i can not sustain this feeling on my own. I become dependent on them to light my candle, and resent the fact that i can not feel what they feel on my own

Eventually, no matter how much i "love" them, i end up (figuratively) sitting on their faces

You sound like you would benefit from therapy. Looking for attention and love that your family never gave you in a romantic partner is quite unhealthy.

[MyUsername1111111]

Hello again

Way ahead of yah! I learn a lot in therapy about what behaviors i do are seen as abnormal. It makes me a "better person", i would say.

And i don't really look for love.. it is just that when i have it i would prefer it not to leave, as i said. Even those who throw themselves at me and love bomb me i do not invest in until i have concluded that they would in fact be someone that i would not mind spending time with.

Post number 12 squared!

[Mattmx]

Originally Posted by MyUsername1111111

Hello again

Way ahead of yah! I learn a lot in therapy about what behaviors i do are seen as abnormal. It makes me a "better person", i would say.

And i don't really look for love.. it is just that when i have it i would prefer it not to leave, as i said. Even those who throw themselves at me and love bomb me i do not invest in until i have concluded that they would in fact be someone that i would not mind spending time with.

Post number 12 squared!

The fact you can feel any kind of love makes me lean towards you having repressed emotions more than ASPD

[MyUsername1111111]

Originally Posted by Mattmx

The fact you can feel any kind of love makes me lean towards you having repressed emotions more than ASPD

But my point is that "love" is relative to your own emotional depth. Dahmer can "love" something, while that amount of "love" may be equal to the love of a new pair of shoes for someone with no disorder.

Which is why it is not part of the DSM criteria.

Saying "i love you" is instrumental for me. If i "like" someone, it is directly related to how much they provide for me. Entertainment, attention, physical items, connections, ect.

[MyUsername1111111]

It seems as though i have a following now..

Any good shows on TV guys? I wouldn't know

[Atypical_Disaster]

Originally Posted by MyUsername1111111

But my point is that "love" is relative to your own emotional depth. Dahmer can "love" something, while that amount of "love" may be equal to the love of a new pair of shoes for someone with no disorder.

Which is why it is not part of the DSM criteria.

Saying "i love you" is instrumental for me. If i "like" someone, it is directly related to how much they provide for me. Entertainment, attention, physical items, connections, ect.

ASPD is a trashcan diagnosis for habitual criminals. The diagnostic criteria for ASPD doesn't even come close to capturing the personality of a socio/psychopath. Anyone who for whatever reason(s) keeps breaking the law and has a lot of problems with aggression can get an ASPD diagnosis without actually being socio/psychopathic.

You keep trying to make yourself sound psychopathic in your posts. You are failing, miserably.

[MyUsername1111111]

Aw!

See, you two are more concerned with diagnostics than i am..

So oblivious to yourselves! Check!! Congrats!

[Mattmx]

Originally Posted by MyUsername1111111

Aw! I NEED THAT CHECK BOX!!

There is a lot you need, but I don't think you're trying to get any of it here. This isn't a place to come and just insult others as you see fit. This is a support forum for people looking and willing to give support. I see you doing neither, so perhaps you should change your tone, look at yourself and your past, and see what the issues may really be. You got banned from there for this exact behavior I'm sure. You can't just walk around throwing insults in a volatile manner expecting others to tolerate it. Show a little self control, for yourself at least.

[MyUsername1111111]

What do you gain out of trying to help people?

no one online gives a **** about who you appear to be

[Wren_]

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