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Old Jan 09, 2010, 10:35 PM
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Intrusive Thoughts…
There is an expression of “thoughts sticking like glue.” The very act of reacting emotionally to the thought glues the thought all the more to you, and the more time you spend worrying and obsessing about the thought, the more that glue becomes hardened over time. The thought and all its associated connected thoughts are there in the morning when you wake and there at night when you are trying to get some sleep. The thought becomes stuck to your psyche because your emotional reaction to it is its sticking power. Thoughts are a form of energy, neither good nor bad. It is how we judge those thoughts that determines how much impact they have on our lives. Thoughts need firstly to be fed by attention, but what they really love is a good strong emotional reaction to make them stick!

http://www.panic-and-anxiety-attacks...sive-thoughts/
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Old Jan 09, 2010, 10:38 PM
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Mental imagery is increasingly considered to be an important feature in anxiety disorders. The aim of this study was to investigate the prevalence and characteristics of mental images in obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD) and their possible association with earlier adverse events. A consecutive sample of 37 patients with OCD admitted to a specialist unit was interviewed using a semi-structured interview. Thirty (81%) patients with OCD reported mental images. Most images were either memories of earlier adverse events (n=10 or 34%) or were associated with them (n=13 or 45%). Patients with mental images had more obsessive compulsive symptoms, responsibility beliefs and anxiety than those without. Previous research has shown that patients with OCD and comorbid posttraumatic stress disorder might not benefit as much from standard behavioural treatment as those without. Consequently, additional therapeutic interventions such as imaginal reliving and restructuring of meaning or imagery modification of traumatic memories might be helpful in OCD patients with mental images that are linked to earlier adverse events.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...d0f604c981a597
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Old Jan 09, 2010, 10:43 PM
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Anyone wanting to stop intrusive thoughts must understand that like ants at a picnic, unwanted, offensive thoughts invade everyone’s minds and annoy us all. To stop intrusive thoughts completely is beyond human power, but our reaction determines how much they dominate our lives. When walking over an ant nest, most of us pay little attention and move on. A different approach, however, could seriously worsen things. If an ant bites as you are walking over a nest and you stop where you are to fight the ant, stomping your foot to try to jolt it off, other ants will swarm and start attacking you. What would have been a minor annoyance turns into a frenzied attack. The more you panic and try to stomp on every ant, the more bites you’ll receive. Something minor escalates into something serious and you may wonder why you are so viciously attacked while others walk through the same area with hardly a bite.
So it is with intrusive thoughts. Most of us dismiss disgusting, unwanted thoughts and mental images as just an annoying fact of life, and move on. Some of us, however, panic and stop in our tracks to try to fight them off, but this very act intensifies the attack.

http://net-burst.net/guilty/stop-intrusive-thoughts.htm
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Old Jan 09, 2010, 10:49 PM
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Have you ever felt plagued by thoughts and images that you just couldn't stand? Perhaps it's the nagging thought, "I made a mistake" or "I think I have cancer" or "I'm going to lose control". These thoughts seem to intrude on your mind and you try to block them out. You think about your thought and you say (to yourself) something like the following:
  • I'm having that thought again.
  • What's wrong with me that I'm thinking that?
  • It must mean something-about me.
  • I have to do something--- make sure it doesn't become a reality
  • I have to stop having that thought.
Your idea that thoughts=reality is what Jack Rachman of the University of British Columbia called "thought-action fusion". People with obsessive compulsive disorder think, "If I think I will lose control, I will" or "If I think that Satan might possess me, he will". Sorry, it's just a thought.
Also, thought suppression doesn't work. Perhaps someone told you, "Snap a rubber band on your wrist every time you have that (BAD) thought". It doesn't work. The thought keeps coming back. Leon Tolstoy described a game he played when he was a kid in Russia. They would stand in a corner and try not to think about a white bear. Years later, Harvard psychologist Dan Wegner showed that people instructed not to think about a white bear were more likely to think about white bears. Thought suppression leads to thought rebound.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...anted-thoughts
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Old Jan 09, 2010, 11:03 PM
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Intrusive thoughts and images can be hard to understand. I met many people who just seem to say dont think about it dont listen to it, the worst is when thay react to me negatively after telling them why I scared of the strange thing I'm scraed of. Like a fear of hurting people, I wont go in to deatail but that can be so intence thay almost feel like thay have happened already. I could have all the evidance right in front of me that it has not happened but cant make it feel like it has not happened or wont happened. So I would everything I could to make sure it could not posiable happen.

Part of me wroiting this out of fear of not informing people about me and part me is saying its not my job, anther part is saying that does not matter let people decide what thay think of what I do and deal with later. I often get anoy people with information like this cause thay think I want attention at all cost, but thats so far from the truth. Right now I worried about a certtain person and my head is telling me to help this person any way I can and if this helps this person than I will greatfull but if this upset people I will be conflicted and if this has the oppersited effect on this person I will be devastated but I feel I have do this and this is my OCD. Constantly trying control the OCD and balance it against when is normal in life. depsite trying really hard to keep my self balanced I still manage to often upset people.

Part of me also thinks this info will benifit many people here but I dont know if that is true right now or my OCD making me feel that way.
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Old Jan 10, 2010, 12:57 AM
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Thanks for your posts, mum2four. I have often been told I intellectualize too much, but no one can tell me at what point it is too much. I am often told I make things too difficult, but no one can tell me at what point I cross the line. I am often told I do not understand, but no one has been able to explain what it is I do not understand.

What is so difficult is the sense that the harder I try the worse I make it, whatever it is. Most times the therapy ends with a notation, "Patient does not have a personality conducive to therapy."

You work hard at acquiring knowledge to understand what you are dealing with, mum2four. Good luck.
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Old Jan 10, 2010, 01:13 AM
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Thanks for your posts, mum2four. I have often been told I intellectualize too much, but no one can tell me at what point it is too much. I am often told I make things too difficult, but no one can tell me at what point I cross the line. I am often told I do not understand, but no one has been able to explain what it is I do not understand.

What is so difficult is the sense that the harder I try the worse I make it, whatever it is. Most times the therapy ends with a notation, "Patient does not have a personality conducive to therapy."

You work hard at acquiring knowledge to understand what you are dealing with, mum2four. Good luck.
I know what you mean.....right up till I was put on luvox I was exactly the same. People tell me not to argue with them.....called me stubborn......said I was impossable to talk to. Once I discovered I might have OCD I started challanging my OCD thinking and things have been improving ever since. My last diagnoised me as BPD but knew T say it not BPD its just my OCD ect causing my personailty problems. If some one was tell me I had to learn to drive cause it would be better...........I feel like NO instantly .....I'm getting better I want to want my licence but now know OCD thoughts are holding me back. My thought process kinda go's like this....................driving I might crash either because I'm too caution(most likly) or dangerous...............If I hurt some one I might go insane(use to think I would go insane).........................Or might get arrested and go insane..............if I go in sane I will not cope with being in padded cell..............there are way more thoughts than that in my head and feel like list to me like some one is holding in front of my face even while I try to write this......Its not like I'm thinking them one after the other and if I'm chanlange on any of the reasoning behind why I cant learn to drive I will see a new list of reason for that and feel worse. This process happens all the time prety much.....It was not till I started noticing I was no longer doing certain rutines in the exact or or at all that I realised that I even had rutiuals cause I was not repeating them I just had to them my way every time or I could not do them at all. I started to feel like pages from my obsession were being torn out and was able to do things with out following a set of rules. It feel good to be as good as I feel but people still think I'm stubborn and still think I selfish cause I cant lie and it make me use memeorys are storys of referance ect. I still want to be much better. I still often feel like people wont tell me what i have done so wrong and there fore cant change how am unless I know what I did so wrong and crave information and that also anoys people.
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Old Jan 10, 2010, 03:43 AM
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You are trying to get better. I commend you for that.
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Old Jan 10, 2010, 04:06 AM
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Sorry my answer will be short: I call myself an Eeyore - I always think something bad is going to happen, I always think of the what if's. What if I don't. What should I do/act.

Parnoid - Worrier.........

I hate it, it takes up so much time
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