[rolan86]

So I have never done any drugs, and I really don't count pot. However, this year in college I had a very unpleasant experience with some marijuana cake. What I thought wouldn't be anything, turned into the scariest night of my life. I basically had a bad trip, and it was just the most horrifying experience. I could go into the details, but that might take a while. Basically, I left my body, had suicidal delusions, my mind felt like it was more vivid and loud, and my entire reality started to melt into what would feel like a cartoon. This lasted about 14 hours, into next morning, and has basically left me scarred with a panic disorder, that stemmed from having multiple very unpleasant "flashbacks".

I understand that people might learn from bad trips, but I seriously don't know what I learned. It just left me mentally scarred. What bothers me the most is that I don't know, and will NEVER know what was really in that cake, and this has been causing me a great deal of stress. I asked the people who made it and they just said it was just weed. I can't seem to get a good answer to this. I've asked my housemates about it, and they just said I was just really high, and the edibles can actually be very potent to that extent. However, other people I have spoken to (experienced drug users), often say that there is no way that that was JUST marijuana. I've heard people say that it was laced with pcp, lsd, etc. I will never know though. What makes it so stressful is that I can't communicate my experience very well. Who will take me seriously when I say I had a bad trip on some cake? I'd assume people would just laugh and say something to the extent of, "haha, you were just high, lsd is much more instense.", and not take me seriously. Not to sound superficial or anything, but it would at least be somewhat of a positive to at least be like yeah, I took lsd and it was a bad experience, will never do it again. But no, I had a bad trip from marijuana, and only have that to say for it. It's just odd, because people I've talked to who have taken lsd or mushrooms etc. have said they have never had anything near as intense as what I described.

Now onto my fear of psychedelics:
Well, as you might have guessed, I am terrified of tripping to begin with now. I never want to have that experience again, and overall want to stay away from drugs of all sorts, even marijuana, which I have been doing. However, it has been hard for me to be at peace with this, because the pressure to do these kinds of drugs is so high in college. Everyone glamorizes it, and makes it out to be something to be proud of (even IF they say they won't do it again.) It just feels like I'm out of the loop, like I have less experience because of this. If feel if I would ask a large group of people at my school, who here has ever taken psychedelics?, most would raise their hands. I just hate this pressure, I want to just be at peace with myself, and just enjoy having a solid state in reality. I have been struggling this entire year to get better mentally after that experience, and don't want to throw that away by taking some drug. It's just the pressure is so much, especially having lived in a house this year with heavy lsd/mushroom users, as well as having it talked about all around me. It's like I just can't escape hearing about it.

[Snuffleupagus]

I have had a lot of experience with weed, and if the THC content of that cake was high enough, your experience doesn't sound surprising to me at all. This is especially true if you don't have any tolerance built up or just have a sensitive system. I smoked weed with my dad ONCE. He ended up on the bathroom floor in a fetal position. He sh it his pants, and kept saying he felt like he was ”jelly melting into jelly.” I was a heavy smoker and smoked the same stuff and got a little giggly.

It all depends on dosage and how it interacts with your particular system. Weed has a lot of power all on it's own. Don't underestimate it.

[pbutton]

Yeah, I have had two similar experiences w/marijuana. I'm not surprised at all. My solution was to stay away from all drugs. I don't regret the decision.

You may need to find a new place to live. If you feel pressured to do something that terrifies you then that is not where you should be living.
LSD, terror, and and a mental/emotional illness is a recipe for disaster.
If you don't want to try it then don't. You don't have to explain your decisions to everyone

Originally Posted by rolan86

Now onto my fear of psychedelics:
Well, as you might have guessed, I am terrified of tripping to begin with now. I never want to have that experience again, and overall want to stay away from drugs of all sorts, even marijuana, which I have been doing. However, it has been hard for me to be at peace with this, because the pressure to do these kinds of drugs is so high in college. Everyone glamorizes it, and makes it out to be something to be proud of (even IF they say they won't do it again.) It just feels like I'm out of the loop, like I have less experience because of this. If feel if I would ask a large group of people at my school, who here has ever taken psychedelics?, most would raise their hands. I just hate this pressure, I want to just be at peace with myself, and just enjoy having a solid state in reality. I have been struggling this entire year to get better mentally after that experience, and don't want to throw that away by taking some drug. It's just the pressure is so much, especially having lived in a house this year with heavy lsd/mushroom users, as well as having it talked about all around me. It's like I just can't escape hearing about it.

[shezbut]

(((rolan)))

I had a bad trip from marijuana once. I could have sworn that it was laced with something, because I seriously grew up around heavy pot usage, but I never experienced anything like that before!

One thing that I learned early in life (around age 10), don't mix highs. So I can't blame alcohol, or the mixture for causing my bad trip. The room went sideways. I couldn't walk, I kept slamming into the wall just trying to move a few feet into a different room. I threw up and I was absolutely miserable! I was still tripping the next day & I think that's when panic started to set in for me. Everything sounded loud and I felt as though I couldn't breathe deeply enough. I absolutely hated it!!

My "friend" swore to me that it was just regular pot in that bowl of mj, but I'm still not convinced (and it's been 22 years since it happened). I haven't smoked ever since, because that was such a negative experience for me. And I've figured that I've smoked enough since I grew up with it around me.

I have heard that cakes, brownies and such are a lot more powerful nowadays than just smoking mj, because the THC chemical becomes stronger throughout the process or something?? Just what I've heard. I know what you mean though ~ I've been there and it sux!!

Regarding feeling pressured to smoke or whatever at school ~ don't worry about those yahoos! I'd recommend focusing on your studies and having decent work options when your done with school, rather than ending up in a dead end job because you weren't real devoted to developing a career. You'll be a lot better off ~ happier physically and emotionally!

Best wishes to you....

[uchiha]

I would worry about my studies instead of what your flat mates think. You are young and have a lot to live for, don't let smoking pot potentially screw that up! I wish you the best of luck

[PurpleFlyingMonkeys]

Ok up until 4 weeks ago i was a stoner i wont lie. I used it for stress anxiety and appetite. It was wonderful. I did however have a couple of times with negative effects, it can cause depersonalization, where you feel like you are watching yourself from the outside but it has never caused a "cartoon effect" and i have been smoking going on 11 years. But i stopped 4 weeks ago this saturday. Now though, i want to get into psychadelics, please bear with me. My mom dad and brothers were regular users of psychadelics, as well as friends. I cant count how many times i went to pick mushrooms but never ate them, i was always afraid of anything that strong, but i wanted to because i wanted to see pretty colors. But my brother told me to NEVER take it if you are afraid, i wish id listened to that advice.
When i met my fiance he shared my love of marijuanna. But he also really enjoyed psychadelics. After about 8 months of just watching him and his buddies take them, i thought i was ready. So my first drug was ecstacu. I did a ton of research on all of them to learn what to look for if things went bad. I readied myself and made myself and my fiance drink water every 5 minutes. I spenr that entire night checking my pulse at well. Everyone said the ecstacy was really weak, i guess thats why i didnt feel it. So a couple months later i decided to try it again, drank plenty of water and did have one point where i freaked out. My fiance was playing drums and i made him stop to come with me, not something i ever do. But soon the worry eased up and we had an alright time. But again i was told it was really weak and apparently i was the only one who even felt it.
So i was ready to move on, i had no more fun then i would have drinking and knowing the dangers ef ex i decided to just not try it again, wasnt wortb it. But i wanted to try mushrooms. We couldnt get mushrooms (months later again) so my fiances friend offered us acid. He told us before hand that it was weak. It had gotten rained on and sat in water for about 12 hours, but i figured starting weak would be good. We took it and no freak outs, i didnt even see much anyways, it only gave people a glow and we watched a few funny movies. I got bored even. But it was very weak. My fiqnce took two, me only one and his friends 8-10 and they all said it was weak still.
So a year passes and i decided i wanted to try mushrooms for my birthday, it was my families favorite psychadelic and i wanted to see what all the fuss was about. Armed with some valium (research said its what is given at the hospital to counteract a bad mushroom trip) i went to the friends, they had lab mushrooms. I changed my mind. I didnt want todo it. But everyone else had done it and i could tell my refusal was setting in a bad trip for everyone else. So for the sake of avoiding anyone having a bad trip i swallowed my fear and ate the mushrooms. They weren't weak this time.
I wasnt even feeling bad really, just a bit nervous of what it would do to me. They decided tobwatchfreddy got fingered, a bad movie for me taking mushrooms as i was sexually abused as a child. But id never seen the movie so i didnt know. I saw one visual during the movie, he was sitting at his desk and the room was zooming in and out. I asked my fiance if it was actually happening and he said no, it was the mushrooms. Once the movie got serious and tom green started talking about his brother being molested, i started to get really uncomfortable so i got up and went into the bathroom to get away for a minute. Told myself as i looked in the mirror that i was ok i felt fine and the movie would be over soon.
When i came out of the bathroom i walked around the corner and everything started to go black. I flopped down on the couch and everything was black. I heard a loud ringing and nothing else. I saw a kaleidascope of colors spinning in front of me and then it quickly zipped out into darkness, black nothingness. I didnt have a body, it was just my eyes looking into the darkness. The next thing i know im hearing my fiance screaming my name. Eventually my vision started to come back and it took even longer for the muffles screaming to turn into words. I was on the floor, my fiance his friend and the other girl over me, the coffee table that was once right by my feet across the living room and the other guy in his chair staring and freaking out. I asked what just happened and my fiance said i hada seizure. Something i had never in my life had and i was 24. Something no one in my family had.
I instantly started to vomit. My fiance said when i flopped on the couch he noticed my shirt was pulled up and when i didnt fix it, he knew something was wrong as my stomach is my biggest physical insecuritu, something i still have trouble letting him see. So he said my name and i didnt respond. He lifted me up and my eyes were rolled into the back of my head. I started to violently shake for a good minute before going limp and collapsing. I had slid off the couch and they practically threw the coffee table acrossthe room to get tome. After i went limp my eyes rolled into the back ofmy head again and my whole body twisted and locked up. After another minute of this my fiance swears he heard a kind of zip noise like id heard when the kaleidascope zipped out and i collapsed again and wemt lip. He was in tears screaming and shaking me to try to get me back, they all thought that i had died.
When i came back, after everyone freaking out, i decided not to go to the hospital. My fear of medication prevented me from taking the valium but we called my fiances uncle who is a paramedic and he told us to go there. He called my fiances grandmother and a family friend who was a nurse, let me tell you having my fiances grandmother there, knowing her dissapproval for drugs was just the icing on the caken there i took the valium, was able to stop vomiting and dry heaving and got some sleep about 6 hours later.
it put such a big fear in me afterwards, my anxiety got higher than it had ever been. For months me and my fiance were on edge, i would leave church or any place early, i was afraid to go even into the store. About 5 times a day i would feel like i was going to have another seizure. 3 days after the seizure i went to the emergency room, i was such a wreck. They said the seizure was from the mushrooms and i wouldnt have another. But i went to see a neurologist anyways for a second opinion, he said the same thing, if i stay away from mushrooms i wouldnt have another one. Six months later i started to feel like my old self again (the seizure was this past august) but then on may the second, 8 months after the fact, i woke up ine morning and smoked a couple of big bowls before work. I knew id smoked too much but id done that many times before. My license had gotten suspended from the seizure, state law is 3 years suspensuon after a seizure, so my fiance was driving me to work. I started to get tired and dizzy and put my head back, next think i know we are far down the road and my fiance is yelling my name and holding me up with one arm while he drove.
Id had another seizure and collapsed into his lap while he was driving. The ringingstarted and i threw up all the way to the hospital. They said if i didnt use psychadelics again i wouldnt have another but i did. The mushrooms opened that door and now i have 3 years from may until i can get my license back, if i dont have another. I stopped smoking marijuanna per my pdocs request and when i stopped, i physically feel safer from the seizures. I know that it is used to treat seizures but in rare cases it can cause them, so mushrooms even ruined my love for marijuanna. While i still believe it should be legal in all states for medical ourposes, i may never be able to use it again for my medical reasons.
I took mushrooms that night against mt better judgement for peer pressure aline, and there hasnt been a day that has gone by since that i dont regret it. My fiance as well as myself have sworn off all psychadelics since but that doesnt change the damage that has been done.
many many people can be unphased by psychadelics but its like playing russian roulette, because there are more people than you can imagine that a "bad trip" was the least of their worries. I understand that peer pressure is tough but you will be out of college before you know it with no peer pressure any more, but if you cave into it, you will possibly spend even longer regretting your decision. Im only thankful that i had weaker doses on the others ud tried, if they were as strong as the mushrooms, who knows if i would even be here now. And im thankful i made it out of that night alive although it literally changed my life. Its been almost a year and still its effecting me terribly.
I wish i would have listened to my brother, it would have saved me from all of this, NEVER try a drug you are afraid to take, no ammount of research or preperations can stop the inevitable

[PurpleFlyingMonkeys]

Sorry for the typos, i am using my phone to reply

[sobergirl]

Hi. I am sorry for your experience, but at the same time I hope it serves as a lesson learned. I did drugs and drank for 16 years before I got clean and sober. At first it was great. What a great way to escape from the horrors and sadness my mental illness brought on. Plus, I had friends for the first time in my life. Eventually, my friends "grew up," and stopped using, but I was an addict by then. I am not saying you are one, dont get me wrong. What eventually happened, after like 15 hospitalizations for my depression and suicide attempts, was I had an appointment with my pill doc one day. Well, he explained that there was no use taking meds if I was drinking and drugging because the stuff negates, or messes with, the medecine. Then, he fired me. It was then that I went into rehab and have been clean and sober ever since, almost 10 years. Not that you are like I was, I just hope you consider how any drug can mess with your meds and overall well being. Good luck and peace.

[rolan86]

Wow! Some intense stories here! But thank you all for the input, I really appreciate it! Yeah, I don't know, it's just frustrating that like, I can't really talk about how intense my trip was since nobody will take me seriously really. Like I kid you not, during my trip, a cartoon character was telling me to jump out the window, and I probably would have if I didn't run out of the room and find one of my housemates. So yeah, I am just really trying to stay away from psychedelics. It's just going to be so freaking hard this school year, since they are EVERYWHERE and EVERYONE talks about them.