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Old Dec 31, 2007, 02:28 AM
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I wonder how many people think about checking their hormones
as part of a routine health exam? I wonder how many men
do it for anything other than sexual performance? I wonder
how many doctors have them checked when a patient
reports persistent anxiety? It took my p-doc 4-5 years to bring it up.

Seroquel was the only psych med that worked for me. The link below is illustrative of something
you MIGHT see with regards to other psych meds-if they can ever get the adrenal fatigue diagnoses right.
The subject did not have anxiety but he did have an abnormally low cortisol count due to his taking Seroquel.
Cortisol is a key hormone which determines a persons response to stress.
My recent cortisol count was even lower than his which means that I had no way to counter the slightest stressors
which also means I was inviting a relapse. This was probably going on to
some extent for most of my life. To what extent does adrenal fatigue contribute to anxiety?
To what extent do psych meds contribute to adrenal fatigue and anxiety. I am not against meds but I thought
I'd raise the question because you might not see the subject
raised with regard to any other psych med because of the implications.

This is only a single case but it was reported for a reason.

http://www.docguide.com/news/content...2572E4004AAFBC

If my conclusions are incorrect I would like to know about it.

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Old Dec 31, 2007, 11:16 AM
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Yes, all sorts of hormones. I have an adrenaloma that I had to go to an endocrinologist for and the whole world of hormones opened for me in a new way :-) Now I'm working with my doctor to get the right amount of thryroid hormones and that's another adventure. All these are "brain" chemicals that can influence how we respond to things; depression, anxiety, etc. and some are quite subtle so one can read "normal" and still not be. It's a complicated world in one's head.
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Old Jan 01, 2008, 03:30 AM
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Exactly Perna, these are brain chemicals. If you are young enough (and even if you're not) and if you have social
anxiety (or any kind of anxiety) hormone tests might show up as normal.
Ten years later this same person might be taking psych
meds for depression and possibly more meds for the side effects
but the condition, most likely, is only masked. If he tests
his hormones again (most likely a young person won't)
he might be in the low normal range.
Ten years later his adrenals
are slowing down and he starts with the Viagra which masks another
condition...and on and on.

The argument seems too simplistic. Secondary adrenal
fatigue possibly=anxiety. Treatment of adrenals=treatment of
anxiety. You might be able to include depression and other
conditions as also being treatable.
I have the feeling something like this is relegated to alternative or
complimentary medicine or voodoo medicine.
If so, I would like to know why?
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Old Jan 01, 2008, 10:57 AM
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The problem is I think that nothing IS simplistic. Sometimes anxiety is anxiety as a combination of life problems (like mine) and not necessarily hormonal problems just like sometimes depression is not anything doctors can find, either hormonal or using the fancy meds they have now but X which we don't know about yet or a combination of X and life problems and/or genetics, etc.

I was fascinated watching the PBS Brain Fitness program a couple weeks ago http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2007...lasticity-pbs/ to see how much we can physically change our brains, with or without other factors helping.
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Old Aug 12, 2008, 12:20 AM
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Hi Perna,

You've responded to some of my posts with interesting replies
so I thought I'd pass on something good for a change concerning
anxiety.

I've had some extreme social phobia for 40 years now
and something called Transdermal Magnesium provides the
long sought after but temporary relief w/o side effects.
In non-bottled form it's found in hot springs in Asia and elsewhere.

T/d Magnesium lasts 24 - 48 hours depending on the individual
without side effects each time you use it. Why does it work?
From what I've been able to pick up anxiety and conditions like it
are often caused by the inability to absorb or retain minerals and
specifically Mg on the cellular level. How does that pertain to anxiety?
Stress and impaired immunity are probably some of the reasons
why ppl lose Mg. Can it be that simple? It's not but that's a good
summery.

Additionally;
-No, I don't sell it.
-Can be googled as "Transdermal Magnesium"
or ordered through Dr Allen Pressman on his site.
-Don't use it while using antibiotics or have a serious kidney con'd.
-From experience Mg powders and pills either don't work or give you diarrhea.
-Do not use Ionic Mg sold by "Trace Minerals". It comes from The Great
Salt Lake which has the highest concentration of mercury of any lake
in the world.
-Comes as a simple topical and ppl don't usually need to be tested.
-These links have real good info. It can't be patented so you're not
going to get much money spent on research.

http://rickmalterphd.blogspot.com/20...-mindbody.html
http://www.drcarolyndean.com/article...m_miracle.html
http://george-eby-research.com/html/...n-anxiety.html
http://www.mdheal.org/magnesiu1.htm

Anyway, Good Luck with it or without it.)
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Old Aug 12, 2008, 12:15 PM
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Thanks for the info; I've added magnesium to my food tracker and looking at past days, I'm less than optimal. Going to adjust what I eat, make it a priority to get up. It's the 4th most abundant mineral in the body.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/dru...ation/DR602371
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Old Aug 14, 2008, 11:22 PM
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Hello, I totally believe that some psych meds can cause adrenal fatigue as well as insulin resistance and who knows what else...in my situation the insulin resistance caused weight gain and the meds caused seizures...

Read an article on the net about Magnesium Glycinate and how someone cured their depression that way...very interesting article....http://george-eby-research.com/html/...n-anxiety.html...

Hope someone finds it useful...

TJ Hormones and Anxiety
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Old Sep 25, 2010, 03:31 AM
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Anxiety can be relieved by bioidentical hormones if treated properly. Seek a doctor's advise for proper medications.

http://www.premenstrualsyndromesuppo...l-hormones.php

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