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Old Nov 03, 2014, 05:20 PM
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Great book I found regarding this. Some easy principles, that take a bit of dedication to happen, but works!

"Organizing Solutions for People with ADHD" by Susan C. Pinsky
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Old Nov 03, 2014, 09:13 PM
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Old Nov 12, 2014, 08:21 PM
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Wow. you all nailed it. My significant other just got diagnosed with ADHD. Our house is SO cluttered. stuff winds up where ever it is last used. or where it seems most convenient at the time. Seems like we lose stuff because there isn't a correct place for it. My depression does not help us. the place is dusty dirty. Neither one of us seems to clean much. It is a terrible cycle of stress. I hope I can get better, and I hope the Adderall helps my ADHD person.
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Old Nov 12, 2014, 10:55 PM
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Clutter seems to build up around me too.
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Old Apr 23, 2015, 10:56 AM
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This is not trivial at all and is a terrible problem. I was recently diagnosed (about 5 years ago at 40) and my son also has ADD. We are both not hyperactive, we are primarily inattentive. It sounds like you could be too? My pdoc told me that people with this type of ADHD tend to need a fire lit under them to start projects. Not out of laziness but because our minds just don't process information the way other people's do. I know I always miss the small details in things and it gets me in trouble. With the clutter in cleaning I don't see things (like paper on the table, or a sock on the floor) on an individual basis. I see it only after they pile up into a big overwhelming mess. Then there is a wave of adrenaline to get things done but I don't know how and get frustrated.

My friend taught me that the best way for me to work with clutter is to purge and throw things away (or donate) constantly. I just try not to let things accumulate.

But to get to this point, the best help I've had is medication. You say there isn't help where you live, but do you have a primary doctor who can prescribe you something? There is a lot of misinformation and stigma attached to stimulants, but when you have a real diagnosis of ADHD of any kind, it is usually the best help available. Over years the ADHD will lead to anxiety and depression, so it's no wonder you're overwhelmed. Even if you can't get anyone to give you a stimulant, Wellbutrin or Straterra (and SNRI) are used as well, so maybe a doctor could help you there?

Completly agree. Starting to think since yesterday, mood stablisers wouldn't be such a bad idea for ADHD as well, especially if it's diagnosed late.
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Old Apr 23, 2015, 11:00 AM
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Numbed, you made me smile and almost laugh. Once I bought 3-4 file boxes and hanging files. When I realized that in addition to the sorting, I would have to decide on how many files to use, what to name them, and then divide up the stuff...well, it was just too much. Back to the store the unused items went.
Though I find this problem embarassing & overwhelming, you and the other posters have helped me feel better about myself. Sometimes I feel so alone in this. I do care. It is just that it causes more stress in my life. I am so tired most days. I will try again to conquer the piles when I am off again in two weeks.
Thank you Seeker, reading this post made me smile.
ADHD is hella frustration to say the least. Our motto is if we don't laugh, we'll cry. I've lost my goofiness over a period, but you're helping me get it back, so thank you
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Old Apr 23, 2015, 11:02 AM
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< Is now jigging to said song, like a complete loon


Everyone smile, cause none of you can dance as bad as me, lol.
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Old Apr 23, 2015, 11:24 AM
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Another theory for me about clutter, is unfinished things.

We actually hold unfinished things in our mind and it takes a small part of energy.
Same principle behind expressing a secret and feeling better.

We build up so many unfinished things and reinforce failure to complete such things and so often I'm not suprised our minds run like they do.

Apparently many/most ADHDers as children turn hyperactivity inward as adults (maybe conforming to rules being an adult). We are forced to take things more seriously, and are made to feel bad when we don't.

So my advice for everyone based on this, laugh it up, it's just a piece of paper, it holds no meaning other than the thoughts on it. It's not worth obssessing about any more, you know deep down inside when you think about it, or even just reading this, it's just a piece of paper.

My Psychiatrist (who has an interest in ADHD) when said "you don't seem hyper" I said I am around some people, and I said I contain it most of the time. He then asked what do you feel when you contain it. I took a few seconds to think seriously and "Anxious" was my answer.

LauLiza is completly right with the purging (although I disagree with the word due to most associations being negative), but to also have fun with it, well that's just the cream on the strawberry or whatever that saying is, lol.

We make a mess, but after a while it's not longer fun (when usually it is).

We all get more and more wound up and constricted. The principle of "control freak" is counter productive, like (i've said in the past) squeezing playdoh as tight as you can, it will just run through your fingers.

People call us lazy, (hilarious). I think the older we get with ADHD the less fun we become, the more neurotic become.

So take those pile of papers and throw them in the air and dance as they fall all around you.
DISCLAIMER: You cannot sue me over paper cuts, you're an adult and responsible for yourself

Kinda like Exposure therapy with OCD phobias, except here purposely & consciously make a mess and clutter with the intention of being silly and enjoying it.

(hopefully this post is accurate enough to make sense, Alex needs some sleep)
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Old Jul 14, 2015, 02:36 PM
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A few years ago I was diagnosed with ADHD. Unfortunately, in my area, there is not help for adults with ADHD. I have read encouraging informational books, but am unable to take the ideas and put them to work.

My main problem is the clutter. I have major depressive disorder. When I have some extra time, I am too depressed to care about the clutter. When I try to work on it, I start to get very anxious, then have to stop because I cannot cope with making decisions about stuff. The task of dealing with clutter is so overwhelming that I am not motivated to do much about it. So I procrastinate. Some would say to do it in small bites. Well, with my depression, a small bite occurs about twice a year. I just do not know how to deal with the clutter when I am being weighed down with depression, anxiety, OCD, ADHD, and self esteem issues.
I know there is a thread going on right now about decluttering. I have not seen anyone mention ADHD in the thread. I feel lost in all this.
Yes, I do manage to keep up with the laundry; sort of keep up with dirty dishes and house cleaning. But the clutter.....I am upset to look at it, and even more upset when I try to figure out a way to deal with it. I cannot even cope with it one room at a time. It is too overwhelming.
Does anyone else have this overwhelming problem?
ok - this is soooooo me in the past 5 years - including the MDD diagnosis
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Old Jul 14, 2015, 02:48 PM
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Could you afford a cleaning person once a week, or month? That's a dream I have so I don't have to deal with that aspect of things. One thing less...
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Old Jul 14, 2015, 05:21 PM
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I want to - I even left a bunch of messages for different people with cleaning businesses. Most didn't call me back. Guess that shows me how professional they would be to deal with.

Truth is, I'm going to be going back in to therapy and I'm fairly certain that I'm going to be upping my med intake all of which translates to an upping of my $$$ outlay. I'm already stretched to the breaking point in that department and you can't squeeze blood from a turnip. Something will have to give and it will be the house cleaner - therapy and meds are more important. BUT - like I said - I'm really hoping that once I get my focus & energy back that I'll be able to tackle my house like I used to - or close to it at least.

Boxes and boxes of unopened mail, un-filed paperwork, piles of receipts, etc. is just ********. I never used to live like this. Oops-a-daisy. Are we allowed to swear on this site?
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Old Jul 16, 2015, 03:21 PM
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This is so me, with the worst of it beginning about 5 years ago. I keep things clean as I can remember to, but I fail to see clutter until it becomes too much to handle.

Someone described having the adrenaline rush to do something but then being too overwhelmed to know where to begin. I can really relate to that.

Ugh, so much clutter. I put all sorts of papers in one big box recently, with the intention of sorting it all out into its proper places. But the idea of deciding what to do with everything, and probably looking over things that will remind me of things I don't want to remember or which I feel I just can't handle right now. It's too much.

Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I haven't read through the entire thread yet, but this touches on something that's been making me feel awful for a while, so I appreciate it too.
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