[sugahorse1]

sorry - I just didn't know how to word this or where to put this, so here's my best attempt:

BP and BPD are very similar - one is more chemical, while the other is psychological. (Broad statement, I know)

I battle a lot with feelings of loneliness (Even though there are people around, and I have a boyfriend, and a few friends) - is this just a symptom of depression (Due to Bipolar) or could it actually just be a psychological issue? I'm not doubting that any amount of therapy would be beneficial...

I just sometimes wonder when are issues really chemical issues we are feeling, and when are they psychological?

I just want to reach that palce of happiness and self-love, but feel it is beyond my reach. Is there a med combo that will drastically help? Or is it definitely a psychological issue? Even though I cannot identify a trigger, nor anything in my past?

I'm just feeling terrible - my anxiety has decreased, but i feel uncomfortable in my own skin. I really just want someone to hug and hold me. I'm not terribly depressed (well, maybe I am), I haven't been able to be productive. I just feel ======== like, not quite anything. But I know I'm lonely. I don't have drive to do anything. Is this new meds? Or a psychological thing?
Am I being a brat, attention-seeking?

[BlackPup]

My experience, and it is really only a guess, is that the psychological stuff might make you react but the chemical crap makes the reaction excessive. So drugs stop the moods getting to big, while therapy reduces the frequency of the changes....

I think therapy is great, it helps me be happy when my mood is normal, and helps me endure a bad mood, and helps me not be an idiot when I'm elevated!

[onomonapetia]

I think that to get to that "place" you are seeking will take a combination of the meds and therapy. I know that for me I was only dealing with the meds until now and I feel like a window (albeit small) has opened up for me to finally be at peace with myself. I still have my rotten days though.... No you are not being a brat at all! You just want to be happy, and you deserve to be!

[onlymedid]

Meds help me when things get out of control or when I can tell it's a chemical thing. I can't explain it, but you get to a point where you just "know" if it's chemical or not. I think therapy has helped me with that.
Without therapy, I cannot say I would be feeling good at all. She helps me to put things into perspective, helps me clarify reality when I am not quite sure about it and sometimes, is just there for a hug.
There are so many things going on that it's not going to be the same thing for you that works for me.
I wish I was there, I'd give ya a big hug! Nope, I don't think you are being a brat!

[sugahorse1]

well, i'm starting T, so hoping for a bit more clarity

sugahorse, what would need to happen to make you feel less lonely?

[sugahorse1]

Byz - now you sound like my T - given me a question I DEFINITELY have no answer for.
But it's given me a bit of food for thought.
I can be surrounded by people, even people I know that love and care for me, yet still feel lonely. I think it may be a mixture of lonliness and lack of motivation for anything.
I'm really finding it difficult to put my finger on words for the emotions.
On another thread on PC someone suggested flash-cards with emoticons on them to express our feelings in T - I think this is what I feel like right now