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Wait- I mean he's the only partner I've had for the last six months.
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Okay first of all I am not suggesting that you are one hump away from being a prostitute. But if you realize it or not, the people that choose that lifestyle start with the mindset I am hearing from you. It was not meant as an insult just a realistic observation. Again I have been there and I was married to a woman like that.
And I am a man, and I already told you that I have dealt with the same issues and it is not one bit different because I am a man! It is no less harmful, dangerous, self-degregrading and demoralizing. And I am telling you that from my experience giving in to the hypersexual urges is not the answer to the problem. Sadly you only looked for the parts of my post you wanted to be sensitive about. Listen carefully, you may choose whatever life you wish, that is your business. But I am telling you from experience the sex will never ever live up to the hype and you will only feel worse over time and all the time with the exception of when you orgasm. And even if you wish to see this as a woman problem and that it would be different if you were a man, the fact is you are a woman. So why care what a man has to deal with or not deal with? What kind of reputation do you want? The girl looking for the quick freebie or someone who is looking for a lasting relationship? How do you want to feel about yourself? And despite the fact that you and some women suggest otherwise we all know that men who look for the woman who wants a quick romp are considered "pigs". Please don't pretend that men are truly glorified for the same destructive behavior. It takes two tango and in this scenario both are users and abusers. And look Moose whether you believe it or not I was genuinely worried having been there myself. Sorry for any misunderstanding. |
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I think this post needs to be ended. It is becoming hurtful and going round in circles. From a support persepctive, I think we have made a real concerted effort. Furthermore, i don't know what we as a forum can do.
Moose - I don't know you, and until 2 days ago have not seen you on the boards (I realise you have been a member for a while). I just feel that this topic is now getting out of hand and hurtful. From a bipolar perspective we have tried to help, but it appears you are not prepared to listen, or our advice is not enough for you. I'm sorry about that. But please be careful of hurting other people with your comments, or even triggering people.
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that comment never came from me. But if you want to get into the nitty gritty: what is the definition of a prostitute? The sex that Moose is engaging in is not in a loving relationship, it is merely for physical pleasure.
No, I'm am definitely not judging anyone. My issue is that our support seems to be brushed off, and none of our suggestions seem to be enough. It is against my morals to encourage this type of activity, so I am trying to make suggestions on how to curb these feelings. I'm also human, I've also experienced these urges. But they need to be kept in check. And if they are brought on by hypomania, or mania, then a med change is probably going to be necessary.
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You know but those are your morals, suga... so suggesting that it needs to be dealt with medically might not be really supportive.
What bothers me is this attitude that bipolars are just collection of symptoms... are you silly-happy? Symptom. Are you horny? Symptom... others can be horny and enjoy sex, but not you labelled-bipolar. This is 21st century and the attitude towards sex is thankfully more liberal. And if some can do with physical relations... as long as they keep themselves safe, it's alright... If sex is sacred thing for you... that is your opinion, it might work differently for others. Many people have friends with benefits today and if it works for them and the other side of the relationship feels the same... there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. It doesn't have necessarily be a symptom, or underlaying issue or whatever. Problem with such topic is that for most people it's impossible to give advice without being influenced by their morals and their experience. But I think that this is what YOU need to figure out, Moose. Is this what you want? What are you looking for? Do you feel guilty over your feeling and deeds? Don't have to answer publically... just think about it.
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I saw my pdoc today. She thinks I'm doing fine- checked for hypomania and I even mentioned wanting sex more s week or so ago. She asked questions and dies not think I am hypomanic, nor does she see my boyfriends situation as a problem.
I don't know why this took a turn to me supposedly going from guy to guy. I had one guy the las six months and am probably getting a new boyfriend very soon. That's because the ex is now a FB. Pretty simple. I could have a steady BF for years like I did and still have hypomanic sexual symptoms. I thi k the thread going toward sleeping around without thought is probably projection on the part of that particular poster. WHEN I have sex with this new guy, I will stop with the ex. Now- in the PAST I had "serial boyfriends"- but that was 6 years ago. Big difference here. Bottom line, my pdoc thinks this is all normal and I'm stable. Meds are good and working. |
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Good to hear that, Moose.
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Glad your appointment went well Moose. I'm sorry that this thread went where it did. You handled it very well and I hope you continue to post.
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I glad you went to see your pdoc and she feels everything is under control. And I think your approach to dropping your FB once you are in a steady and commited relationship is the correct one.
I don't think I ever implied that you may have had multiple partners at a given time. I was just commenting on how I perceived FB's to be detrimental to one's soul - at least for me, that is the case. I'm very happy I'm in a committed relationship that comes with all the bells and whistles of a relationship, plus sex with one, loving person. I hope things settle down really quickly for you - I know it is not easy to live life with hypersexual feelings.
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Was i the only one who saw, she said she had the same guy for six month,s . where did the rest of the crap came from ,she need,s an opoligy
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And six months before those 6 months, I'd been with him four years. Granted, I had one person once inbetween there- a friend.
I don't see a problem with this. Both were enjoyable and the BF/FB were very loving even so. At least the sex was. |
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Sugahorse is right and I feel responsible. Some of you are reading way to much into my point regarding prostitution.
And like Sugahorse is pointing out I was merely being blunt. Let's not wear rose colored glasses about this stuff. And again "hello" I am telling you I have been there! And hardly a prostitute is not the issue is it? I was trying to get her to see the destructive nature of what she was describing. And again I was speaking from experience not out of my holier than thou butt! I again apologize for words not being clear enough to make the point. I ultimately was trying to warn her and save her from many of things that I went through myself and the things my first wife endured. It wasn't worth. Not even close! Like Sugahorse said though perhaps this is not getting anywhere and I apologize to all of you for not spelling out my position. Good luck to Moose and all of you. |
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PS- clearly I did not understand her original post based on what has developed.
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Lexapro - I think this conversation has gone beyond anything you and I may be able to say. I'm leaving it at that. I've offered all I have to give; it's either going to be appreciated or not. Not skin off my back
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"I'd rather attempt to do something great and fail than to attempt to do nothing and succeed. Robert H. Schuller" Current dx: Bipolar Disorder Unspecified Current Meds: Epitec (Lamotrigine) 300mg, Solian 50mg, Seroquel 25mg PRN, Metformin 500mg, Klonopin prn |
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Agreed.
It does present a challenge however. We are working within the constraints of brief comments. I did not mean to assume anything bad about Moose or anyone. I was merely addressing what I thought I understood. And while I do not apologize for my views or morals for that matter, I readily admit I have made my share of mistakes and would not wish those regrets or consequences on anyone. If I was not clear than I am sorry, if it was offensive somehow, I am sorry for it was not intended as an indictment on anyone. At the end of the day people will believe or at least say they believe what they want. |
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Boards are like that- always have been- easily misconsrued. I don't think the thread is unhelpful. Gives us lots to think about- even if it's not exactly all our situations. :-)
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And I guess as long as we understand that it is cool right?
I mean personally I have too many internal issues to get bent over a post. LOL No harm no foul! |
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