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hamster-bamster · Jul 29, 2012, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by genetic

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Yes, and I am one of the former teachers.

I'm a retired teacher of gifted students, and I don't consider the post to Trippin' denigrating to the teaching profession. Kindergarten teachers are some of the most gifted of teachers--they must be since they're dealing with young minds still eager to learn. So are those who must teach special education students. And the others do an excellent job, too, for the most part.

I expressed what I meant clearly and do not rely on another's judgment of what is correct. Your view is your own; I'm not one who would call a counselor "a hell of a counselor". The idea that it was "denigrating to the teaching profession" came from you, not from me.

The fact is, however, that a counselor for bipolar illness and language- disturbed people either in manic episodes or schizophrenics in language-disturbed episodes must have higher educational levels than the B.A. degree or B.S. degree or the Special Education degree required for teaching in public schools.

For some reason, Hampster, you have difficulty with my threads. I wish you
would ignore them if they cause you such distress. They are certainly not designed to be triggers for you.

If anyone was put down because of my expression, it was not shown in response to the post to Trippin'.

Sorry about this, Trippin". You don't deserve this on your threads.

Genetic

That is true, they need technically longer education, the counselors. But they can seriously wreck our lives nonetheless. Take me, e.g. I have been in counseling since early 1990s and my diagnosis arrived in 2006 - early counselors missed an obvious, in your face diagnosis. A militant family therapist destroyed the remnants of my marriage. A psychiatrist gave me an appt in 2 MONTHS when I was clearly manic and just resuming drugs after a several week hiatus, and I did some terrible things while manic. I should have been referred to an intensive outpatient program instead. And the list goes on. So I do not have any veneration for the profession. It is just a profession like all others - there are highly professional people and there are arseholes and incompetents in it. For the highly professional people, like the last two of my p-docs, I have a lot of respect. With kingergarten teachers, on the other hand, my experience has been uniformly positive. They were great personalities and they really did an outstanding job starting my kids on their school careers. I have a lot of respect for them despite their lower level of education.

I will not respond to further posts from you. I invite you to do the same: if I post further about my mother, do not respond with something along the lines of "she did the best she could" as I find it insensitive. Just refrain from any response.

Cheers.

Zoesmom · Jul 29, 2012, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Trippin2.0

Thanks Christina

ZM, Thanks, but I can't not be around her. I had to stay after my dad passed as I was/am main breadwinner. My sister's offered to take her in tho, so maybe 1 day, when I can afford it, Jo and I can move without guilt. And I agree, I think she got herself a nice do-over with my daughter!

Oh I see. With your sister offering to take her in and u making more money.......that's a good plan. Maybe you can see the light at the end of the tunnel for you to be away from her on a daily basis.

I remember (before my mom got Alzheimers) I would think up things so I didn't have to be around her. I would be in a good mood when I first saw her and BOOM it killed it!

Stay strong

Jul 29, 2012, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hamster-bamster

That is true, they need technically longer education, the counselors. But they can seriously wreck our lives nonetheless. Take me, e.g. I have been in counseling since early 1990s and my diagnosis arrived in 2006 - early counselors missed an obvious, in your face diagnosis. A militant family therapist destroyed the remnants of my marriage. A psychiatrist gave me an appt in 2 MONTHS when I was clearly manic and just resuming drugs after a several week hiatus, and I did some terrible things while manic. I should have been referred to an intensive outpatient program instead. And the list goes on. So I do not have any veneration for the profession. It is just a profession like all others - there are highly professional people and there are arseholes and incompetents in it. For the highly professional people, like the last two of my p-docs, I have a lot of respect. With kingergarten teachers, on the other hand, my experience has been uniformly positive. They were great personalities and they really did an outstanding job starting my kids on their school careers. I have a lot of respect for them despite their lower level of education.

I will not respond to further posts from you. I invite you to do the same: if I post further about my mother, do not respond with something along the lines of "she did the best she could" as I find it insensitive. Just refrain from any response.

Cheers.

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I will not respond to your threads. However, my statement that my mother did the best she could has no reason to be insensitive to you.
Both my parents had college training, and both were intelligent people.
They were not reared during an era in which psychiatric treatment was
readily availble, so they did not know all the of the implications of
symptoms of mental illness. That's all that was meant.

You find me insensitive; I find you extraordinarily arrogant.

Genetic

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