How true is the IQ myth

I agree with this. I tested at 140, my sister tested low normal. She is a highly successful curator at a prominent museum where I'm a hot mess that can never finish what I start. I'm an unemployed (ATM) woman who loses her phone in the house half a dozen times a day. I don't know about the rest of you hearing about "if you could only live up to you potential" spiel... But I have so many times. It's hard for me to have that "stick-to-it-ness", which I think helps people live productive lives.

It can't test everything like motivation, common sense, intuitiveness...

Try & try again

Intelligence Linked to Bipolar Disorder | Psych Central

I read the article, Sierra, and it is interesting, but not inclusive enough for my thinking.
Some of the books on creativity (which is very difficult to measure by current intelligence standards ) link bipolar illness to high levels of creativity and with high levels of ability in one area,
especially, either math or verbal. (or science and arts, etc.) There is definitely
a correlation between high creativity and bipolar illness, as Dr. Kay Redfield Jamison
points out in her book entitled "Touched With Fire".

For a better understanding of "creative intelligence" I recommend the book "Creativity,
Unleashing the Forces Within" by Osho. I don't agree with everything he says, but
he certainly has an eye for what creativity is. One statement he made is very significant to me:
"it is not a question of what you do, it's how you do it." And "the question is ultimately whether you do it or allow it to happen."

I think the most noted genius may have been Leonardo DaVinci based on his multi-level creativity, and probably the greatest genius in painting and sculpture was Michaelangelo, both of whom had bipolar illness. Many of the Nobel prizes for literature have been awarded to writers with bipolar illness. It's often prevalent in poets, too. My favorite is Shakespeare, seconded by Emily Dickinson and John Keats. Dickinson and Keats were bipolar, not so for Shakespeare, to my knowledge.

Enjoyed this thread very much, but have an appointment and must run.

Call me strange, but I believe in different types of genius. For example, I live with someone who is a math genius. My genius is in history. I know someone whose genius is medicine. There are also artistic geniuses.

Just offered it up as a resource genetic . . . One of many, with widely varying results.

Personally, I've found the people with the highest IQ's to have the most difficulty functioning in relationships/workplace, etc. There is a reason GT students are generally taught in separate classrooms/groups. That is the recommendation based on the latest research about education and gifted children. They work well together, but tend to have great difficulty working with students of average ability. I've seen that play out time and again over my years as a teacher. Definitely walk to the beat of a different drummer.

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So have I, Sierra. I taught what used to be called "Honors" children
in their senior year in high school in English. (Maybe it's called AP now.)
It was being done in the 1960's, as well, in metropolitan school systems
that were savvy about gifted and talented students. In fact, there was
consideration all the way down the line, from the gifted, talented, to
"college bound", to general level education, and special education for
handicapped or disabled.

It is very true that these students work exceptionally well when challenged, and they work independently well, too. Honors English was always taught in small groups, usually no more than 20 students in a class. One or two, now and then, had emotional things that bothered them, but in general, they were a very talented, beauty-oriented group to work with. I loved them, and enjoyed teaching on that level.

I couldn't handle the 9th graders who were either going to barely skim
by high school or would drop out by the end of the 9th year. I really felt for them, but could not teach those folks. My hat is off to all special education teachers. They have the endurance and strength that I don't have and they do a very good job with the resources they have.

I read an earlier article today saying that intelligence is of the heart; intellectual thinking is not. Haven't time to go into more of it, but the writer is right, in my view. It was his idea that Picasso, Beethoven (among thousands of others) had intelligence of the "heart"; (I think it's the creativity that he's really talking about in intelligence.)

Very nice thread all around. I've enjoyed it all.

I concur!!!! Which app? I downloaded a bunch and got lazy & haven't used any.