Do you see bipolar as part of your personality or a disorder

Did someone just describe Borderline Personality Disorder without realising?

So you dont think depression is stress related illness that can lead people to suicide such as famous intelligent creative people like Robin Williams? When im in severe depression i feel horrible, physically ill. People are different, have different experiences of depression and Bipolar. No one is the same cos people respond/deal with things differently. And there are different factors and circumstances that lead to people developing them. People of all kinds of background, can get depressive illness at different age, young and old, female or male.

I see myself seperate from illness, im not ill as a person, but i am severely affected by a real illness that to others isnt so noticeable, obvious, understandable, but to me because i feel, see, live with it, and have experienced it for long time, not all my life but numerous years, so i know its characteristics well, I cant ignore the reality of what it is. Awareness of, understanding it is important to be able to deal with it and make vital changes i want and need in life. It gives power to me to see that i am not Bipolar. Focusing and developing my strengths, qualities, and tackling/overcoming underlying factors, unhelpful habits, is important.

for me the "basic" symptoms respond well to herbals. But when it comes to behaviors and most of all believes.... it becomes messy there.

Maybe I am just plain ****ed up lol.

Also I would like to point out that killing yourself =/= illness. Robin William had lot of baggage, so who knows why he chose the exit.

Sorry I am not familiar with the similarities between BP and borderline personality. Are you implying borderline can be misdiagnosed as bipolar? I didn't think the mood swings were as great or the duration as long in borderline aas in Bipolar. i thought that was a defining criteria.

He suffered with depression for long time. It was underneath his drug and alcohol abuse. Stressful life circumstances led to depression and depression took over him. Why is it that whenever someone commits suicide you learn that they had depression? There is a real link btw stress related depressive illness and suicide. Whenever ive had strong dark suicidal thoughts feelings and behaviour ive been in severe depressive episode.

It's kind of hard to pull the "Robin Williams " card = depression and suicide . Yes he struggled with depression alcohol and drug addictions.

The end result was he had "Lewy Body" dementia that can cause hallucinations and other horrible mental symptoms , he may have ended his life not even aware of his actions.

Well what i learnt about him is he suffered childhood trauma abuse and he had stresses in later life financial and that he battled with depression. Shortly before he hanged himself he found out he had Parkinsons disease which could of led to him falling into more depressive state and eventually planning his own death. Hanging oneself must be a planned suicidal action not just spontaneous in the moment. He must of been aware of what was going to happen but was overwhelmed by depression. No one else knew but him. Thats why it was big shock. I didnt know he had Bipolar till i learnt that he committed suicide. Depression is often linked with stressful traumatic experiences which people can have bottled up inside them and is associated with alcohol and drug abuse and suicide.

Thanks for that information. I didn't know he had "Lewy Body Dementia" I just read about it Robin Williams' Death Report Finds Lewy Body Dementia - ABC News

It even says in the coroners report he had been acting strangely about some watches he had in a sock and wanted to keep them safe. Just based on that statement and knowing about this horrific disease, you are right, he may not even have known exactly what he was doing when he ended his life.

It is true he battled with depression for long time and that is what led to him hanging himself. There was no evidence found to claim that his Lewy body dementia caused his suicide. What i read says it could of contributed. But depression must have been the main deciding factor. U dont hang yourself without intending/planning to.

Will you let anyone just freely speak?

First of all I'm not saying that he did not battle depression, but you cannot say definitively that is "what led to him hanging himself," as I did not say, nor did the article say LBD caused his suicide. The point I am trying to make is there are several contributing factors here and none of us will never know so be done with it already.

Okay ... Can you please please try to understand what has been typed here ?

Yes Robin had depression YES he had alcohol and drug issues in the past YES he was told he had Parkinsoins ,, that was found out AFTER autopsy that it was NOT Parkinsons ...

He had Lewy body Dementia which causes hallucinations and other horrible mental symptoms, He was not giving his things away to people the way many Depressed people do , he was hiding watches in a strange manner ... that is NOT consistant with Depression.

So with all the known information can you realize that maybe he did in fact kill himself and not be aware of what he was doing ????? Your remark of no one hangs themselves with out intent and planning is foolish and untrue.

If you want to insist he did it by suicide by his depression , just run with it.

I do want to apologize the the OP and say I am sorry that your Thread , has turned into this disaster. You brought up a fantastic question. So thank you.

Creative1oner, Maybe you could make a thread of your own? and post all your concerns about your private struggle, woes and how life is so difficult for you there and you will get personal responses and offers of help just for you with out other topics being inserted to take over the thread ?

Just a thought.

I didnt know he had Lewins body dementia till you came up with it. All i knew from what i read was that he battled with depression for long time and that he was very sensitive person and i read that he had financial stress and was diagnosed with Parkinsons disease not long before he hanged himself. It was totally shocking to everyone no one saw it coming. I was just basing my understanding of what happened to him from what i read and from understanding depression and suicide link. In my case and a lot of people stress related depression and suicide are interrelated. Im sure that depression played a key part in his suicide. We are entitled to have different views. There was no evidence to say that Lewins body dementia caused his suicide. I like to contribute to express views share experiences with others . I dont like keeping things to myself and suffering alone. Im in pretty dark place currently and im well aware of possible suicide risk.

Am i not allowed to contribute in different threads. Yes i am just like anyone else.

Read the articles evvvvvveryone has posted about this.

Can I just remind people of the safety setting we all have in our profile?

A lot of the things I love about my personality are traits or symptoms of being bipolar. It would be so nice to be able to have the hypomania but get rid of the full blown mania and depression. I would get so much done. I mean, of course all of us would miss those things about ourselves, but that's because it's already here. But the "normal" people probably don't feel like they're missing out on anything. I think the fact that we can't pick and choose which parts of it we have means it's definitely a disorder. It interferes with our lives. Medication can help control the bad parts. Unfortunately it takes away some of the good parts too, which I struggle with, when the medication makes me feel dull and uninteresting. But the trade off is usually worth it. I don't think personality is treatable, but bipolar is. So I vote for disorder.