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Old Feb 24, 2016, 09:38 PM
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I want a dnr order but wondering if anyone has hear of or been a party to it going bad ... particually concerned about partial brain damage or such not resulting in death ... long term coma , ect ...

in ky it is .. "I understand that DNR means that if my heart
stops beating or if I stop breathing, no medical procedure to restart breathing or heart function , more specifically the insertion of a tube into the lungs, or electrical shocking of the heart or cardiopulmonary
resuscitation (CPR) will be started by emergency medical services (EMS) personnel." ...

This " EMS DNR Order applies only to resuscitation attempts by health care providers in the prehospital setting(i.e., certified
EMT-First Responders, Emergency Medical Technicians, and Paramedics) — in patients' homes, in a long-term care facility,

during transport to or from a health care facility, or in other locations outside acute care hospitals."


it does not apply if you are already in a hospital ...

sounds pretty final ... just asking ... usually if it can go wrong it does ...
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Old Feb 24, 2016, 10:28 PM
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I'm not completely sure what you are asking. The DNR lets you say exactly what care you would want and what you would not want. Generally CPR is the main thing but it will also address feeding tubes, ventilator support, keeping your body going if your brain has ceased to function. I have had one for a long time because honestly after working in a place where many people I treated had been given CPR and did not have a good quality of life I was not interested in CPR. I also saw a family member who was given CPR after an unknown time without vitals and his outcome was pretty sad.

You need both a advance directive and a designated power of attorney to have it really work well; the POA is to follow your instructions if anything happens.

You can add to the forms I think if you want anything specific. I made sure everyone knew to donate my body to the hospital that has treated me and to donate any possible organs as well (well before my body actually).

Does that help?
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Old Feb 24, 2016, 10:52 PM
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I'm not completely sure what you are asking. The DNR lets you say exactly what care you would want and what you would not want. Generally CPR is the main thing but it will also address feeding tubes, ventilator support, keeping your body going if your brain has ceased to function. I have had one for a long time because honestly after working in a place where many people I treated had been given CPR and did not have a good quality of life I was not interested in CPR. I also saw a family member who was given CPR after an unknown time without vitals and his outcome was pretty sad.

You need both a advance directive and a designated power of attorney to have it really work well; the POA is to follow your instructions if anything happens.

You can add to the forms I think if you want anything specific. I made sure everyone knew to donate my body to the hospital that has treated me and to donate any possible organs as well (well before my body actually).

Does that help?
what I quoted is the exact law in ky ... nothing can be added .. and if you make it to a hospital your dnr is null and void ... they can do anything they deem necessary ... thus the issue if you make it there ... dnr ONLY applies to first responders , nursing homes , you home and being transported ... if you make it there you could be on machines for years ...
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Old Feb 24, 2016, 11:07 PM
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even if you have partial brain damage you can still throw sticks in front of roller-bladers from your wheel chair

just go with the flow. live how youve always wanted to. and if you get stuck, remember what moves you.

i guess what moves me would be throwing sticks in front of roller-bladers, but you know, whatever! cats, kisses, disney, all fair game
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Old Feb 24, 2016, 11:23 PM
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even if you have partial brain damage you can still throw sticks in front of roller-bladers from your wheel chair

just go with the flow. live how youve always wanted to. and if you get stuck, remember what moves you.

i guess what moves me would be throwing sticks in front of roller-bladers, but you know, whatever! cats, kisses, disney, all fair game
just don't want to bankrupt family keeping a vegtable alive...
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Old Feb 24, 2016, 11:38 PM
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if they dont want to support it they wont

but if they do, then might as well get some sun
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Old Feb 25, 2016, 12:33 AM
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Wiretwister I urge you to reach out if you are making these arrangements because your feeling unsafe. This is something I was doing when I was making plans so, I'm sorry for suggesting it if you are not but I know you have had struggles recently.
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Old Feb 25, 2016, 01:02 AM
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I was thinking the same thing as Wanderlust. This may not be the best time for you to make yourself a DNR., wiretwister. It's a very serious act and it needs to be well thought out. at a time when you're having little or no psychic distress.

I personally made myself a DNR back in my early years of nursing, long before I was ever diagnosed bipolar, because I've seen (and done) CPR and it's brutal. Ribs break and sometimes puncture lungs, and unlike they show on TV, it seldom works. Survival rates are dismal even with advanced interventions. (Besides, if you're doing CPR on someone...they're already dead.)

If you're not in a good place right now, please defer any decisions about your code status (DNR) until you feel better. You may change your mind, and you might not, but either way it's best to make that decision fully informed and aware of what you're directing health care providers to do if you are found pulseless and not breathing. JMHO.
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