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May 24, 2016, 06:29 PM
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It's what maybe most clearly distinguishes schizophrenia from BP.
In walking a fine line between BP and SZ, I experience it, sometimes more, sometimes less. It's one of the reasons I often can't afford to "relax". I believe it's what in some more mystical/religious texts is called a characteristic of the "half-wise": wise to the (almost) utmost extreme (due to a psychotic disorder), understanding how they don't choose their path in life, but, paradoxically, that determines their path, one where one "sits back and relaxes", where nothing one does makes any difference. Is anyone familiar with the experience? Any ideas how to stay more fully wise, if it's a sign of wisdom at all and not just delusional.
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May 25, 2016, 07:46 AM
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Anyone? You don't have to share my analysis of course.
Just an avolition that remains regardless of your mood?
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Mania kills cells. Brain cells die. Memories become more reduced conceptually, making more efficient use of limited means. Memories shape our reality. Our memories are more or less split in two by abstractions, conceptual reductions. Mood states with memories, concepts, attached. Memories of pain and those of joy. It causes instability, changeability. Fearing that will leave an emptiness between pain and joy and a greater divide. See Me, Feel Me, Touch Me, Heal Me. |
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May 25, 2016, 08:01 AM
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You should add an avolition definition. I had no idea what that word meant. I had to look it up and I did that yesterday but now don't remember it but my reaction was that I was pretty sure I've never experienced it before.
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May 25, 2016, 08:02 AM
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So, I don't have insight, but someone else probably will.
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May 25, 2016, 09:22 AM
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Lack of will, not in the depression sense because that would be more like seeing no options and possibly a lack of willpower. You still (rather) have something you don't or you wouldn't be depressed, like not being depressed. The the more you lack a will, the shorter or less severe the depression, I believe, in general. It's being satisfied with anything. It's a great achievement to have such a lack of will, it's like the highest stage of consciousness in some religions, but it's also very dangerous: you may believe nothing matters, which isn't the same thing. That's why it's half-wise and it can lead to homelessness for example, because anything is fine. I have some of that. Sometimes more like BP, so less so, sometimes more like SZ, or just a mixture. It needs to be in balance: one isn't better than the other.
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Mania kills cells. Brain cells die. Memories become more reduced conceptually, making more efficient use of limited means. Memories shape our reality. Our memories are more or less split in two by abstractions, conceptual reductions. Mood states with memories, concepts, attached. Memories of pain and those of joy. It causes instability, changeability. Fearing that will leave an emptiness between pain and joy and a greater divide. See Me, Feel Me, Touch Me, Heal Me. |
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May 25, 2016, 09:44 AM
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Oh. Is this like how in buddhism the only way to be truly happy is to come to the realization and acceptance that your life is perfect the way it is and not continuously seek posessions, etc., and more and more, thinking it'll make you happy but it doesn't because you'll just be seeking more?
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May 25, 2016, 09:44 AM
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Forever!
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May 25, 2016, 10:57 AM
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Mania kills cells. Brain cells die. Memories become more reduced conceptually, making more efficient use of limited means. Memories shape our reality. Our memories are more or less split in two by abstractions, conceptual reductions. Mood states with memories, concepts, attached. Memories of pain and those of joy. It causes instability, changeability. Fearing that will leave an emptiness between pain and joy and a greater divide. See Me, Feel Me, Touch Me, Heal Me. |
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May 25, 2016, 11:40 AM
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The darkest of nights is followed by the brightest of days. 😊 - anonymous The night belongs to you. 🌙- sleep token "What if I can't get up and stand tall, What if the diamond days are all gone, and Who will I be when the Empire falls? Wake up alone and I'll be forgotten." 😢 - sleep token |
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