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Old Jun 15, 2016, 06:04 PM
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Does anyone know of any med that works like Zyprexa but doesn't cause the weight gain? I've gained about 30lbs since going on it maybe 4ish months ago (although I think some of it may from the Seroquel, however I am dubious about that since seroquel has never made me gain in the past), and I absolutely hate how heavy I am and how fat I feel...but the thing is, Zyprexa is the gold standard for me and I keep ending up back on it because of that. I'm seeing my pdoc tomorrow and I'm hoping to possibly have ideas by then and talk to her about the weight gain.

BTW - I've been on Abilify and Geodon and Latuda (3 other APs). Abilify was horrible and sent me into an unbelievable depression, Geodon gave me a bad tremor, and Latuda worked for awhile then pooped out at my dose and my body couldn't handle a higher dose.

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Old Jun 15, 2016, 06:12 PM
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Abilify and geodon are supposed to be "weight neutral" or so my doc says

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Old Jun 15, 2016, 06:14 PM
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Abilify and geodon are supposed to be "weight neutral" or so my doc says

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Been on both...Abilify made me insanely depressed (more depressed than I had ever been to that point) and geodon gave me a horrible tremor
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Old Jun 15, 2016, 06:16 PM
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I've had no weight gain on Geodon and I've been on every dose possible. From low to high doses.
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Old Jun 15, 2016, 06:23 PM
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I've had no weight gain on Geodon and I've been on every dose possible. From low to high doses.
I wish I could take Geodon, but it gave me a really bad tremor. Not only that, but I couldn't do the whole split dose thing and had to take it all at night because it knocked me the fck out!
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Old Jun 15, 2016, 07:25 PM
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I'm sorry. Alternatives for Zyprexa? I hope your doctor helps you find something better. Alternatives for Zyprexa?

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Old Jun 15, 2016, 07:55 PM
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I like Risperdal a lot (very stabilizing for my hypomania), but it can be a weight-gainer in high doses. On 1 mg, it doesn't affect my weight.
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Old Jun 15, 2016, 07:57 PM
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I wish I could take Geodon, but it gave me a really bad tremor. Not only that, but I couldn't do the whole split dose thing and had to take it all at night because it knocked me the fck out!
I've been on Geodon since 2003 with a hiatus in 2007 of my own doing but as things spiraled out of control I fessed up that I took myself off it and then begged to be put back on and have been on it ever since. But my pdoc wants to take me off it as she no longer feels it's beneficial but also because I have had speech issues since 2011 and my pdoc no longer feels that's an acceptable side effect. The other side effect I've recently acquired is that I have become pre-diabetic so when I go in to see her this coming Monday I'm sure she'll even be more adamant on discontinuing Geodon. My pdoc is thinking of replacing Geodon with Lithium. I'm not optimistic about this idea.
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Old Jun 15, 2016, 08:08 PM
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I've been on Geodon since 2003 with a hiatus in 2007 of my own doing but as things spiraled out of control I fessed up that I took myself off it and then begged to be put back on and have been on it ever since. But my pdoc wants to take me off it as she no longer feels it's beneficial but also because I have had speech issues since 2011 and my pdoc no longer feels that's an acceptable side effect. The other side effect I've recently acquired is that I have become pre-diabetic so when I go in to see her this coming Monday I'm sure she'll even be more adamant on discontinuing Geodon. My pdoc is thinking of replacing Geodon with Lithium. I'm not optimistic about this idea.
I tried lithium and hated it. But hopefully it works out for you!
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Old Jun 15, 2016, 08:55 PM
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What did you hate about Lithium?

One of my concerns is long term use and that it messes with your kidneys the longer you are on it.
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Old Jun 15, 2016, 09:00 PM
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I just didn't feel right on it and even at a dose that wasn't even at therapeutic levels in my blood it started giving me a tremor, and I've had tremors from meds before and I wasn't all about that.
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Old Jun 15, 2016, 09:10 PM
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Thank you for pointing out tremors as a side effect of Lithium. Tremors are something I should keep my eye on as I already have neuropathy in both forearms and hands and any more loss would truly be devastating for sure. More stuff to talk about to my pdoc on Monday.
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Old Jun 16, 2016, 12:25 PM
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I saw my pdoc this morning and we talked about my weight gain, and she was understanding about me feeling that I can't gain any more. She said she would look into some alternatives, some of the newer drugs like Rexulti and we'd talk about it next time, but for now, don't mess with success.
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Old Jul 02, 2016, 09:26 PM
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Okay, so I see my pdoc next week and I really need to come in with some solid alternatives because I can't fit into shorts that I bought a month ago which means I've gained even more! I don't even want to know how much I weigh now, but I know it's enough that it makes me a fat cow.

Anyone know much about Vraylar or Rexulti? Would they possibly be a good alternative?
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Old Jul 03, 2016, 08:51 PM
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I swear that all meds are individual.
what works for some don't work for others.
Sorry that the geodon does not work for you as that has been a god send for me.
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Old Jul 03, 2016, 09:46 PM
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How about invega. I went down to 2.5 mgs of zyprexa and I'm on 6 mgs of invega too. I'm losing weight. That might work for you...
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Old Jul 04, 2016, 12:22 AM
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Okay, so I see my pdoc next week and I really need to come in with some solid alternatives because I can't fit into shorts that I bought a month ago which means I've gained even more! I don't even want to know how much I weigh now, but I know it's enough that it makes me a fat cow.

Anyone know much about Vraylar or Rexulti? Would they possibly be a good alternative?
Coming from someone who has "been there, done that," with the awful weight gain, don't tell yourself you're a fat cow. It's the **** medication, not you, and you can be attractive/sexy even when you are heavier. Once you find the right meds, then start focusing on weight loss.

In the meantime, buy yourself at least one pair of pants or shorts that fit. You deserve to not feel like you're spilling out of your pants.

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Old Jul 04, 2016, 12:24 AM
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How about invega. I went down to 2.5 mgs of zyprexa and I'm on 6 mgs of invega too. I'm losing weight. That might work for you...
What type of insurance do you have with Invega, and how much is it with your insurance per month? My pdoc is still trying to find the right combo for me and I think he may want to try me on Invega. I'm worried about it being too expensive on my insurance.
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Old Jul 04, 2016, 07:47 AM
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Thanks for all the replies everyone!

I know it's the meds making me gain weighit, but as someone who has a past of EDs, gaining any weight makes me feel like a fat cow, especially when my clothes stop fitting. About a month ago I bought 2 pairs of shorts, and now they're too small

I'll look into invega. If I come in with a list my pdoc will most likely be like, okay, which do you want to to try?
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Invega is weight neutral for most everyone ..

There is always Ole school Haldol... I took it and had great results. after about 3 weeks I had some akathesia , but indural and cogentin took care of that .. I got to my base line and found if I took 1 every 3 days I was fine and no longer needed Indural and cogentin .

It's dirt cheap. very well studied .. If i need to go back on an Ap it would be Invega , or more likely Haldol.

Hope you find a combo that works well and has the least amount of side effects
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Old Jul 06, 2016, 10:29 AM
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I'll definitely bring up Invega when I see her next week since it seems well liked and tolerated on the forums.
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Does anyone know of any med that works like Zyprexa but doesn't cause the weight gain? I've gained about 30lbs since going on it maybe 4ish months ago (although I think some of it may from the Seroquel, however I am dubious about that since seroquel has never made me gain in the past), and I absolutely hate how heavy I am and how fat I feel...but the thing is, Zyprexa is the gold standard for me and I keep ending up back on it because of that. I'm seeing my pdoc tomorrow and I'm hoping to possibly have ideas by then and talk to her about the weight gain.

BTW - I've been on Abilify and Geodon and Latuda (3 other APs). Abilify was horrible and sent me into an unbelievable depression, Geodon gave me a bad tremor, and Latuda worked for awhile then pooped out at my dose and my body couldn't handle a higher dose.


I have a history of eating disorders and I refuse to touch zyprexa because of this. A med like it that's helped me sleep (like zyprexa does) is saphris and its weight neutral! However I'm currently back on seroquel and its been my love for 13 years. Never gained on it because of my ED.

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I have a history of eating disorders and I refuse to touch zyprexa because of this. A med like it that's helped me sleep (like zyprexa does) is saphris and its weight neutral! However I'm currently back on seroquel and its been my love for 13 years. Never gained on it because of my ED.

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I have an ED history too, but I have to look at my life as a whole. I have to be really careful on Zyprexa to not go back to my ED ways because of the weight gain, but it just works so god damn well for me that at least for periods of time I should be on it because nothing else does what it does. I can't get stable on anything else, so I've been on/off Zyprexa for about 4 1/2 years now.
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I have an ED history too, but I have to look at my life as a whole. I have to be really careful on Zyprexa to not go back to my ED ways because of the weight gain, but it just works so god damn well for me that at least for periods of time I should be on it because nothing else does what it does. I can't get stable on anything else, so I've been on/off Zyprexa for about 4 1/2 years now.


I get what you're saying. I've been "good" with my ED for about three weeks now which is amazing for me. But I know if I went with a med like zyprexa, it would trigger me. Even though I've heard good things about it considering I have severe insomnia. I've even considered it as a PRN but every review I've read had to do with weight gain. It may be a med that straightens you out but It may cost me my health and another relapse of ED. Have to really balance that out. So do I give In and go on zyprexa for a good nights sleep? No. Because there's too much health risk as far as throwing up my food every meal to combat the weight gain. That's just where I stand. And yes do think about saphris. Puts you to sleep and no weight gain. There's many other options out there for you Hun. If the weight gain is harmful to you then try another. That's how I feel at least. ((Hugs))

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Old Jul 06, 2016, 08:48 PM
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I get what you're saying. I've been "good" with my ED for about three weeks now which is amazing for me. But I know if I went with a med like zyprexa, it would trigger me. Even though I've heard good things about it considering I have severe insomnia. I've even considered it as a PRN but every review I've read had to do with weight gain. It may be a med that straightens you out but It may cost me my health and another relapse of ED. Have to really balance that out. So do I give In and go on zyprexa for a good nights sleep? No. Because there's too much health risk as far as throwing up my food every meal to combat the weight gain. That's just where I stand. And yes do think about saphris. Puts you to sleep and no weight gain. There's many other options out there for you Hun. If the weight gain is harmful to you then try another. That's how I feel at least. ((Hugs))

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I won't lie, I've been restricting ever since I discovered that I'd put on more weight (I could tell because I wanted to wear a pair of shorts I bought maybe a month ago and they were too small)...but I'd rather have to deal with slipping back into ED than being completely unstable with my bipolar because at least if I'm in ED mode I can still function like a normal human. Without my BP meds I can't.
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