Dejavu

I get this just about everyday and sometimes twice in one day. I don't know what it means or if it's just similar situations I find myself in because I'm always doing much or less the same things. Or maybe it's from dreams. I did read dejAvu is more common with bp/sz people.
Idk but sometimes I think it's trying to tell me something.

Just wondering if you guys get this alot?

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That's interesting... what are some recent examples you've had?

I haven't had it recently.

I don't get dejavu very often. I know it can feel somewhat unsettling. I hope you find some answers. Maybe it's an unknown side effect of meds? Maybe ask your pdoc?

that's interesting (that bp/sz may be more prone to deja vu).... what does it mean for you? Is it troubling for you, or just kind of baffling?

I get it quite a lot; then again, I also have hallucinations so it's just another log on the fire. I kind of like it; adds some interest.

Wonder, like you do, if it is nurtured by routine? Be interesting to read others posts on this... such a strange phenomenon!

I'ts not troubling no, kind of confusing actually. But, I always think it has to have some kind of meaning.

Example, I gave some kid a lift from the park the other night and pulling out I felt as if I was thinking the same thoughts doing the same thing maybe about 4 years ago. Like wow nothing has changed.

idk wtf they mean, probably nothing right

that's funny it adds interest bolivar hah I feel the same way

I experience deja vu on occasion. Not everyday, but probably more than most.

Christopher, I'm glad it's not troubling you but I don't think dejavu can realistically and genuinely happen so frequently. I am NOT suggesting you are fabricating your dejavu experiences. I think you should tell your pdoc when you see him. If these experiences start troubling you or escalate in frequency even more...I'd call pdoc for an early appt.

You said while it's not troubling...it is confusing and you believe there is a special meaning behind it. If you become more confused, please get into your pdoc. If you have a separate experience that has special meaning or message to you....get in to see pdoc.

I'm no expert but I do have experience...I think you may be exhibiting signs of early psychosis. It can be tricky to realize when we are psychotic unless we are having significant hallucinations.

I've had the special meaning thing. I want to say they are called Ideas of Reference...but I can't recall 100%. Anyway, here are two I have had (I've had many...these are examples). I was absolutely convinced a message was being sent to me. And only to me...see below:

One time I was washing dishes and looked out the kitchen window. All of a sudden, a flock of blackbirds landed in the backyard. This was a message sent to me as a warning that I was still being followed by a secret society that had been terrorizing me for weeks. (Psychotic paranoia)

Second time I was driving on a major highway I was very familiar with. I passed a billboard advertising a tv cable company's services. It was a rather plain advertisement. It said the name of the company in huge letters. I can't recall what the message context was....but I immediately recognized that billboard as being there specifically and solely to deliver a very important message to me.

It was a very powerful, real feeling. Based upon my complete break from reality, as I'd driven by that exact boring billboard the past three years, five days a week. That is delusional psychosis, big time. I was completely psychotic and didn't know. I believe it was about the secret society again. Bad guys out to get me.

Not saying that's your situation but things sound a bit hinky for you right now. It is much easier to pull out of psychosis if treated in early stages. Also, psychosis can start out benign or curiously interesting...and morph into a terrorizing experience if fully-blown paranoia sets in. Insight goes out the window - those birds, that billboard was 110% my reality. What I didn't realize was that it was a complete break from reality.

Not trying to freak you out. I'm no doctor. But I was thinking psychosis when I read your dejavu experience. I also had my boyfriend read it. Like me, he is bipolar 1 with occasional psychotic features. He's open-minded so I just said, read this. What do you think about dejavu happening so frequently? He said it sounded like psychosis.

Again, I'm not trying to alarm you. I may be wrong. I'm on your side. But keep tabs on it. You may not be able to. Which is why I think you should tell your pdoc. Hopefully I'm totally wrong.

How are you feeling today? Any dejavu today or anything catch your eye? Are you on an antipsychotic?

Thanks but it's not an early psychosis as I have just gotten out of an episode and been quite stable past few months. I haven't had it in a couple of days. And I don't think they're special messages soley for me. It's just a feeling man.

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I have had deja vu experiences my whole life.
I am very used to them and I just observe them.

In deja vu, as you have noted, there is no "special meaning," it's a sense of having been there, having done that -- previously -- the same exact situation.

My deja vu experiences were so prevalent, it was deeply investigated by neurologists. I am a migraineur. People with chronic migraine (including silent migraine or migraine variants) may experience a lot of deja Vu, as well as people with bipolarish conditions, etc.

Oliver Sachs, M.D. did a lot of research and also wrote a book on Migraine, describing the Deja Vu phenomenon in migraineurs.

There is a high correlation between migraines and deja vu, as well as migraines and bipolar mood conditions. This may suggest a high correlation between deja vu and bipolar mood conditions.

Some people with Temporal Lobe Epilepsy (TLE) also experience frequent deja vu phenomenon.

Interestingly, my deja vu experiences are less frequent when I am taking an anti-epileptic med or a mood stabilizer.


WC

That is quite often(!) I get it (but not as often as that) and find it... disconcerting more than troubling (kind of a fine distiction, yeah). I kind of live floating around my own planet, not all that connected. It's kind of hard to describe, but space case will do.

When it happens, I can't help but wonder if I HAVE been there before, and was just tuned out at the time. Probably not, but that's what goes through my head. Not without reason. I've been places I had no recollection of (not high or drunk or anything) or (for instance) have no idea if I've seen a movie or not (this one happens a LOT, not once in awhile). People will tell me. Not messing with me, genuinely perplexed.

Dreams, out to lunch, bad memory, who knows. That's my experience with them. If they happened a lot, I'd be more concerned. (The memory fails happen kind of often. I mean the déjà vu.)

That is interesting, WC. I had terrible migraines (3 day spans, totally out of commision). I noticed my migraines went WAY down when I got on Lamictal (as in almost non-existant). Can't speak for the déjà vu. Didn't happen to notice. Too busy being amazed by the migraine-be-gone thing, lol.

Interestingly, chronic migraine preventative therapies include anti-epileptic drugs like: Depakote, Lamictal, Keppra, Trileptal, Tegretol, Topamax, etc.

Not only do these meds help me with mood stabilization, they also decrease migraine, they decrease deja vu experiences and often decreased centralized pain.


WC

That's awesome. Psychosis sucks.

Lamictal doesn't help my migraines. Dopamax didn't either. That's what my pdoc calls Topamax lol

Whoa, three days? I feel for you. I'm glad Lamictal helps.

Lol! I know that name, Dopamax!
I cannot tolerate most of those meds. Neurontin is also tried for this.
I can tolerate Depakote the best of all, in Sprinkles formulation only, for some odd reason. I think its all of the extra enteric coating. I have used Depakote for migraine prevention, and for Traumatic Brain Injury -- which led to more pronounced BP-2 symptoms for me. Now Depakote addresses a few issues for me.

Rainyday, you did an excellent job on this thread, by the way. I could feel your deep concern for the welfare of Christopher.

Deja Vu can sound quite odd and, often, sounds as though it's psychotic, as well.



WC

Jamais vu. It's the opposite of Deja vu. I've had that forever, as far back as I can remember. I attribute it more to anxiety than anything, but I've spent a lot of time calling my bipolar just anxiety/depression.
Interestingly, lamictal has controlled it impressively. Interestingly enough it is a symptom of temporal lobe seizures, and, you know, lamictal is an anticonvulsant.

I started having deja vu when I was about 13 years old. I would start with deja vu, then I would go into a trance like state for about 30 seconds to a minute, then feel like I was going to vomit, and then have a migraine. Finally was diagnosed by a neurologist and it was part of a migraine disorder. I personally think it's temporal lobe epilepsy. Anyway, I had them off and on up until 8 years ago. Guess when they stopped? When I started on Lamictal! I definitely don't miss them!

Sometimes. Not recently though.

http://forums.psychcentral.com/gener...E9j%E0-vu.html

This is another interesting thread from 2015.

I admit I get deja vu all the time. When I think I am repeating an event or situation I ask myself what things I know of that are unseen that I can confirm.

For example I found myself in a town I had never been to before - yet I knew eactly where things were like the book store, schools, etc.