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Do you think of depression as being delusional?
I'm not so sure. In a way it's more like the opposite of a delusion: strong emotions. But an absence of a belief in anything, is that a (strong, delusional) belief? And is it believing in nothing, anyway? Or what other criteria need to be met to rightfully call it a delusion? Does thinking of it as a delusion, (or) a delusional state, help? If you had to give depression as delusion a name, what would it be: "delusion of..."? Edit: Having thought about a name, maybe it's a "delusion of insignificance".
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I think depression and delusions are two separate entities.
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when my depression goes full blown I call it the "black beastie" ... I wish it was a delusion ... but it is very real ...
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Maybe "delusion (believing a lie) of perception" or something like that if I were believing certain perceptions while depressed were full-time, never-changing realities.
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Are you saying depression makes you see the real you?
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Mania kills cells. Brain cells die. Memories become more reduced conceptually, making more efficient use of limited means. Memories shape our reality. Our memories are more or less split in two by abstractions, conceptual reductions. Mood states with memories, concepts, attached. Memories of pain and those of joy. It causes instability, changeability. Fearing that will leave an emptiness between pain and joy and a greater divide. See Me, Feel Me, Touch Me, Heal Me. |
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And do you (always) believe that?
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Mania kills cells. Brain cells die. Memories become more reduced conceptually, making more efficient use of limited means. Memories shape our reality. Our memories are more or less split in two by abstractions, conceptual reductions. Mood states with memories, concepts, attached. Memories of pain and those of joy. It causes instability, changeability. Fearing that will leave an emptiness between pain and joy and a greater divide. See Me, Feel Me, Touch Me, Heal Me. |
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I do believe I would be believing a lie if I believed all of my own perceptions were always accurate, and I do know my depression can at times affect at least certain or some perceptions...and since I am aware of that even while depressed: Yes, I always believe it would be delusion or delusional to believe all of my perceptions are always accurate... ...and so: No, depression is not a delusion. |
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cotard delusion. last mixed state I was in I was really depressed and thought I was dead and in hell for a couple of months. no one could tell me otherwise.
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Yes, I'm delusional when depressed. I think my family hates me and would be better off without me. I think I've never been happy and it's all been an illusion and fake. I feel I fail at everything and have done nothing right and I'm just too stupid to live. I'm told these are delusional thoughts so I guess I do see depression as a delusion. I have learned stuff from depression after the fact but hindsight usually is 20/20
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I had never before heard of cotard delusion, and I hope I do not sound like I am denying its existence for anyone or everyone.
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![]() I kept telling my husband....I died and I'm in hell and my husband kept assuring me we were both alive and not in hell. In was.....HELL |
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I don't even believe in hell, I was questioning my religious beliefs that's how strong this was.
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Same here. Sorry that happened. It happened to me years ago. I asked my husband if he remembers it and he does. I don't remember all the details....just that it was so unreal and horrible.
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I really do not know how to answer that ... because if it is true then I am living the delusion now ... ????? I guess my best answer is "maybe" ...
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I don't know if depression is a delusion... but it definitely can make you delusional.
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