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Old Dec 04, 2016, 11:44 AM
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Do you think of depression as being delusional?

I'm not so sure. In a way it's more like the opposite of a delusion: strong emotions. But an absence of a belief in anything, is that a (strong, delusional) belief? And is it believing in nothing, anyway?

Or what other criteria need to be met to rightfully call it a delusion?

Does thinking of it as a delusion, (or) a delusional state, help?

If you had to give depression as delusion a name, what would it be: "delusion of..."?

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Having thought about a name, maybe it's a "delusion of insignificance".
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Old Dec 04, 2016, 11:49 AM
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I think depression and delusions are two separate entities.
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Old Dec 04, 2016, 11:58 AM
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when my depression goes full blown I call it the "black beastie" ... I wish it was a delusion ... but it is very real ...
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Old Dec 04, 2016, 12:12 PM
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Do you think of depression as being delusional?
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If you had to give depression as delusion a name, what would it be: "delusion of..."?
Maybe "delusion (believing a lie) of perception" or something like that if I were believing certain perceptions while depressed were full-time, never-changing realities.
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Old Dec 04, 2016, 12:13 PM
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when my depression goes full blown I call it the "black beastie" ... I wish it was a delusion ... but it is very real ...
But being (truly) delusional is very real too, right?

Are you saying depression makes you see the real you?
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Old Dec 04, 2016, 12:14 PM
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Maybe "delusion (believing a lie) of perception" or something like that if I were believing certain perceptions while depressed were full-time, never-changing realities.
And do you (always) believe that?
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Old Dec 04, 2016, 12:19 PM
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Maybe "delusion (believing a lie) of perception" or something like that if I were believing certain perceptions while depressed were full-time, never-changing realities.
And do you (always) believe that?
Whew! A chuckle just came out as my brain began spinning a bit!

I do believe I would be believing a lie if I believed all of my own perceptions were always accurate, and I do know my depression can at times affect at least certain or some perceptions...and since I am aware of that even while depressed: Yes, I always believe it would be delusion or delusional to believe all of my perceptions are always accurate...

...and so: No, depression is not a delusion.
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Old Dec 04, 2016, 01:15 PM
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cotard delusion. last mixed state I was in I was really depressed and thought I was dead and in hell for a couple of months. no one could tell me otherwise.
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Yes, I'm delusional when depressed. I think my family hates me and would be better off without me. I think I've never been happy and it's all been an illusion and fake. I feel I fail at everything and have done nothing right and I'm just too stupid to live. I'm told these are delusional thoughts so I guess I do see depression as a delusion. I have learned stuff from depression after the fact but hindsight usually is 20/20
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Old Dec 04, 2016, 01:32 PM
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cotard delusion. last mixed state I was in I was really depressed and thought I was dead and in hell for a couple of months. no one could tell me otherwise.
I had never before heard of cotard delusion, and I hope I do not sound like I am denying its existence for anyone or everyone.
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Old Dec 04, 2016, 01:53 PM
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cotard delusion. last mixed state I was in I was really depressed and thought I was dead and in hell for a couple of months. no one could tell me otherwise.
I had the same thing. Mine lasted a few weeks. I was sure I had succeeded in my attempts at once point and was living in hell. It was horrible! I didn't know it had a name

I kept telling my husband....I died and I'm in hell and my husband kept assuring me we were both alive and not in hell. In was.....HELL
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Old Dec 04, 2016, 01:54 PM
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I don't even believe in hell, I was questioning my religious beliefs that's how strong this was.
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Old Dec 04, 2016, 01:57 PM
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I don't even believe in hell, I was questioning my religious beliefs that's how strong this was.
Same here. Sorry that happened. It happened to me years ago. I asked my husband if he remembers it and he does. I don't remember all the details....just that it was so unreal and horrible.
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Old Dec 04, 2016, 08:01 PM
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Are you saying depression makes you see the real you?
I really do not know how to answer that ... because if it is true then I am living the delusion now ... ????? I guess my best answer is "maybe" ...
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I don't know if depression is a delusion... but it definitely can make you delusional.
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