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Old Dec 17, 2016, 12:05 PM
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Do you think hospitalisation without someone's consent is a good thing?

I've always been given a choice which is I think pretty useless (at least in my case). But I'm not sure it's a good thing at all even though I regret my choices (but not much: I believe in fate/inevitability, God's wisdom and even though it might have been good for me, I don't think correcting people is good for society and in the end isn't good for anyone, not good for the spirit, so to speak).

And can you make better or truly your own decisions when medicated?

I think you can, but the wiser choice is to do the things you wanted when unmedicated (in essence), with a better chance of succeeding. To not try and rectify all of your (psychotic) beliefs.

You can't be very good at being what you're not. Separate yourself from your madness completely. You should use what makes you special.

Do you agree and in what way do you try to do that?

I try to balance the irrational with the highly rational, to minimise rational mistakes, to be extremely rigorous in analysing my beliefs. Psychosis is the best way to test that and practice that, reintegrating delusions into your more usual reality, and preparing for that is the best way to deal with psychosis.
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Old Dec 17, 2016, 12:52 PM
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Do you think hospitalisation without someone's consent is a good thing?
Certainly if someone else might be harmed, then everything after that can become much more subjective.

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I don't think correcting people is good for society and in the end isn't good for anyone, not good for the spirit, so to speak).
The difference would first be in whether or not the one being "corrected" is willingly receptive, and then in the form or method of actual "correction". Personally, I sometimes think anyone who tries to help someone through something without having first been through the same thing might best remain at a distance.

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And can you make better or truly your own decisions when medicated?
I have always wanted to never lose access to my own mind, I remain cautious and conservative about meds for those kinds of reasons, and yes, I believe my decisions are my own and that meds can at times help while trying to make clear-and-wise decisions.

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Separate yourself from your madness completely. You should use what makes you special.

Do you agree and in what way do you try to do that?
Specializing in an illness might cause me to think I am special, but illness only makes me different or partially broken, not special...and trying to use my madness to overcome it or deal with would be (and would hold me within) madness.

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I try to balance the irrational with the highly rational, to minimise rational mistakes, to be extremely rigorous in analysing my beliefs. Psychosis is the best way to test that and practice that, reintegrating delusions into your more usual reality, and preparing for that is the best way to deal with psychosis.
Agreed if the presence or absence of psychosis is being viewed as an indicator of wellness...and please do let me know if you might believe I have just madly contradicted myself!
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Old Dec 17, 2016, 01:12 PM
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There are only paradoxes and no contradictions (so I hope; I'd wish ). That's my excuse. Interesting answers.
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Old Dec 17, 2016, 01:15 PM
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Do you think hospitalization without someone's consent is a good thing?
No but it's a necessary thing at times. Now I think those times are fewer then psych workers think but if you can't take care of yourself then someone should have to. You deserve to be safe.

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can you make better or truly your own decisions when medicated?
I'm not sure about this one. I tend not to care about much of anything on meds. I'm more agreeable, but more spaced out.
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Old Dec 17, 2016, 02:46 PM
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There are only paradoxes and no contradictions (so I hope; I'd wish ).
I had not thought of that, but yes, hopefully more paradox than contradiction even though at times it is easier to resolve contradiction than to process paradox!
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