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Old Dec 21, 2016, 12:18 PM
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Have you always had the same hobbies or interests and which are those, if I may ask?

Do you like or do a lot of abstract thinking (to the point where you might not make much sense)? Do you value proof? Do you like music?
I am a techy and math guru, and i also enjoy some music. I am someone who has to have actual existence or concrete evidence.
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Old Dec 21, 2016, 12:19 PM
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Okay.. thanks for this. One thing about me is that I see connections between a lot of things in an intense way. My obsessions over the last several years have been tangents to my main profession because I perceive what I believe to be very fascinating connections and I want to blend these together into grand ideas. I try to convince other people how amazing this is. And I usually fail. Anyway.. maybe this is something I should ask my doctor about.
Generally people with ASD like to talk about their interest but generally not to convince people to use that information. It's just because small talk is difficult and not interesting enough, but people may disagree without it causing a strong need to "rectify" the misguided ideas of others.

Yes, of course tell your doctor about this and ask his opinion. But also mention how and why your interests may change and why you are interested in certain things. If your behaviour is really very different now than it used to be (maybe only days ago or one or more years), mention that.
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Old Dec 21, 2016, 12:23 PM
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I just want to point out however that I note Wellbutrin is one of your precsribed medications. This sends up a red flag for me. I have always thought this to be ill advised to prescribe for Bipolar.
The wellbutrin was prescribed after the risperidone for ADHD, and depression and as an add on for my ssri and risperidone.
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Old Dec 21, 2016, 12:28 PM
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Also.. how do you distinguish a 'goal oriented' obsession? I feel like my obsessions are linked to a final 'goal'.. and when I've attained it I drop it. For example my latest obsession (which led to depression and the hospital) was to unite pottery with my metal smithing job/interest and to have a big gathering of metal smiths, potters, etc to demonstrate these connections. I worked on this in such an intense manner that I fell way behind on my business leading to blah, blah.
Because you want to share your beliefs and interests so much and many different things are all connected and used to achieve basically one goal, it's very likely part of a psychotic, manic episode.

If treatment for ASD would help you a diagnosis might be a good idea. All I can say is that I don't believe the two can co-exist.

Hope this helps you a bit to clear things up and helps you do decide what things might be most important to mention to your doctor.
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Old Dec 21, 2016, 12:35 PM
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I just sent you a PM.. but this explanation might help. Looking back.. all of my obsessions would certainly be 'goal oriented'.. in the past the obsessions were in order to achieve a degree or a career. Or they are linked to a specific question I want to answer. And holy smokes yes... I share, share, share. I've usually end up in some sort of public speaking or teaching situation to allow me a socially acceptable means to talk about it.

For others... I apologize for swamping this thread. It's just these obsessions have been a major factor in so many aspects of my life.. including my current diagnosis.. and Icare brought up a few things that I never fully understood.

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Because you want to share your beliefs and interests so much and many different things are all connected and used to achieve basically one goal, it's very likely part of a psychotic, manic episode.

If treatment for ASD would help you a diagnosis might be a good idea. All I can say is that I don't believe the two can co-exist.

Hope this helps you a bit to clear things up and helps you do decide what things might be most important to mention to your doctor.
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Old Dec 21, 2016, 12:40 PM
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I am a techy and math guru, and i also enjoy some music. I am someone who has to have actual existence or concrete evidence.
Do you use your knowledge of mathematics for a particular purpose? Is it mostly applied mathematics you are interested in?

But even answers to those questions can't give you a definitive answer as to what your type of problems might be called.

I think it's unlikely you're problems are "purely" those of BP, but it could be. Maybe the other answers I gave may help you. I can't tell you what diagnoses and treatment might help you, just what might be relevant.
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Old Dec 21, 2016, 01:07 PM
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Do you have any sensory issues?
I am sensitive to certain sounds, and i am also sensitive to touch.
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Old Dec 21, 2016, 01:24 PM
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Do you use your knowledge of mathematics for a particular purpose? Is it mostly applied mathematics you are interested in?
I am a data scientist working for a bank dealing with statistics, and business line stakeholders implementing data changes.
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Old Dec 21, 2016, 04:51 PM
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This graph is a good example of the symptoms and pattern i use to have prior to neuroleptics, combined with a baseline. They would last anywhere from less than hour to a few hours, or a couple of days. Then a return to a baseline.

http://psycheducation.org/wp-content...pelinWaves.jpg
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Old Dec 21, 2016, 05:04 PM
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Hmmm.. this thread really has me wondering about Wellbutrin. I'm plagued with more of the depression side of Bipolar disorder but the antidepressants were a catastrophe. But reading up on Wellbutrin it sure seems like a thing to try for the depression? Anyway.. I realize this isn't on-topic.
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I agree with above posts about being unable to diagnose. I just want to point out however that I note Wellbutrin is one of your precsribed medications. This sends up a red flag for me. I have always thought this to be ill advised to prescribe for Bipolar. It is an anti-depressant, some of which can actually trigger a manic episode. [I don't recognize your other medications,, perhaps they are prescribed to counteract the Wellbutrin]. I speak from experience. No sooner was I put on Welbutrin than I was thrust into a horrible state of mania and paranoia resulting in my own diagnosis.
I'm on Wellbutrin and feel so much better. It's not my only med though. I'm bp 1 too.
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Old Dec 21, 2016, 06:22 PM
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When i started taking wellbutrin my mood and energy levels increased quite a bit. It seemed to work quite well with the ssri and neuroleptic.
I am considering staying at 1 mg of risperidone, since that is the lowest effective dose for bipolar, just in case i do have it. It seems to work quite well for irritability associated with the ASD.
Any thoughts on me staying at 1 mg of risperidone?
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Old Dec 22, 2016, 07:09 AM
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As long as it helps and you need it or really can use it to function, I'd say it's fine, no matter the diagnosis.
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