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Old Dec 30, 2016, 01:50 PM
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What's good about having BP?

If you think nothing is, there's part of your problem.

Actually optimism isn't the right word. It's being grateful.
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Old Dec 30, 2016, 01:56 PM
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The relief in finally knowing what the hell has been wrong with me all my life.

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Old Dec 30, 2016, 02:16 PM
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Pesismist think things cannot get worse. Optimist knows they can...

(from Bosnian (anti-)war movie "No Man's Land")
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Old Dec 30, 2016, 02:21 PM
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I am optimistic. My belief system is that our souls when re-incarnated chose to go into the physical body that we have now, and the families we have. Even though we have bipolar, it gives us a chance to attain spiritual evolution more than the majority of society. I think optimism is key. Letting go of negative thought patterns is hard but worth it.
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Old Dec 30, 2016, 02:36 PM
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Pesismist think things cannot get worse. Optimist knows they can...

(from Bosnian (anti-)war movie "No Man's Land")
If things can get worse, it's more likely they can get better. People who think nothing changes lose hope. Losing hope kills, BP doesn't.
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Old Dec 30, 2016, 02:44 PM
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Oh I agree. I don't see BP as death sentence...
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Old Dec 30, 2016, 02:46 PM
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I am optimistic. My belief system is that our souls when re-incarnated chose to go into the physical body that we have now, and the families we have. Even though we have bipolar, it gives us a chance to attain spiritual evolution more than the majority of society. I think optimism is key. Letting go of negative thought patterns is hard but worth it.
Exactly (in essence, I'd say)!

We've seen the light, to our detriment, in some way, but as a favour to society (which makes it all worth it).
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Old Dec 30, 2016, 03:21 PM
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It's hard to see an upwards trend if things change so much for the "worse" and so much for the "better". But it is there.
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Old Dec 30, 2016, 09:35 PM
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I think things can always get better. Everything always gets better, even if it doesn't seem like it at the time.

Anyway, what I think is good about having bp is at points becoming one with the universe, being able to touch the thoughts of those around you, and having enough energy to run around neighborhoods at three in the morning.

(Seriously. lol. I'd love to feel one with the entire world around me again and see the entire universe moving up in the sky.)
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Old Dec 30, 2016, 10:03 PM
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It definitely was a relief to receive this diagnosis. It explained so much of my past behavior, which enabled me to be mindful of my future behavior.
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Old Dec 31, 2016, 07:24 AM
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I am certainly not optomistic

when something comes up, I always think of all the bad bits and dwell on it

(maybe that's partly because of depression/ the way i've been treated,) but I also think it's a natural part of my life.. I've been on this earth 29 years and life constantly gets worse.

constantly
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Old Dec 31, 2016, 07:41 AM
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What's making things get worse; what is it that's getting worse?

The progress I made has pretty much plateaued, but still I believe things will improve, however slowly. I had to adjust my expectations, but that's life.

Maybe I'm just too stubborn, but I keep hoping at one point I can do the things I dream of.
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Old Dec 31, 2016, 07:45 AM
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What's making things get worse; what is it that's getting worse?

The progress I made has pretty much plateaued, but still I believe things will improve, however slowly. I had to adjust my expectations, but that's life.

Maybe I'm just too stubborn, but I keep hoping at one point I can do the things I dream of.


too many problems

not enough people to listen

1 of those kinds of sinarios
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Old Dec 31, 2016, 10:52 AM
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People will listen if you open up.
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Old Dec 31, 2016, 10:54 AM
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I think accepting the the dx and taking meds is the responsible thing to do.
I'm fairly certain my adult son has it but he denies it. He creates havoc in the lives of those around him. He refuses to do anything about it bc he doesn't want to admit having a mi. At least I have faced it and am dealing with it.
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Old Dec 31, 2016, 11:28 AM
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Some people might listen if we open up

Others slam the door shut, like an old shop front slamming down.
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Old Jan 01, 2017, 04:35 PM
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Some people might listen if we open up

Others slam the door shut, like an old shop front slamming down.
Okay, not all people. But better to have one person that listens and many that don't than everyone that might.
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Old Jan 01, 2017, 07:07 PM
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Yep. Went to the optimistic the other day. Hafta go again soon. I can't read with those damn glasses.
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Now that I'm on a med that keeps the depression down I feel more optimistic personally.
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Old Jan 01, 2017, 07:20 PM
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I'm trying hard to be more optimistic. It's hard when you've spent so many years beating yourself up and not knowing how to change it. Now that I have the BP dx I can work towards at least gaining some coping skills. The BP itself will never really go away, but if we learn to cope I think things can and will get better. It's a long road, but I gotta do what I gotta do...for me.
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