[Fuzzybear]

I’m wrong talking about how bad the help is over here.

I’m wrong for saying anything.

I’m wrong for saying the doctors don’t care

Even though they don’t

I’m wrong for struggling with no Medication.


I’m completely and disgustingly wrong and should be punished, always.

[bewise93]

I hope everything gets better for you. Don't have any self hatred or it will hold you back immensely.

[TheSeaCat]

You are not wrong Fuzzy and hey it's alright to speak up when a doctor is being terrible. I know first hand that some just lie and don't care or deliberately lie about side effects. It's perfectly okay to speak up. I think the fact that you are fighting this illness without any medication is spectacular. I know you react badly to medication but still you are still fighting. I don't know that I would be able to do it. You doing okay?

[Fuzzybear]

I’ve just had a glass of wine, it hasn’t helped much. And I have 2 diazepam to take tonight.. I told the last doctor I consulted I’d almost given up on them (doctors) She wasn’t rude (unlike some) but was rushed and just prescribed another med, in a class of meds which I’ve been consistently allergic to, the whole packet is somewhere in our cave many months later, I do have a repeat prescription of benzos and another med which I think does nothing. So I’m surviving. I wish it was so that the system over here wasn’t so spectacularly broken. They blame us for being “damaged” and pile the labels on. But it’s the System which is broken, dishonest and completely ****ed up. Maybe in a different part of this forest, less populated .. (far away from our cave) it isn’t quite as bad.

One exceptionally bad doctor not all that long ago wanted to refer me to the ....cringe.. CMHT. But said she didn’t think therapy would help. WTF. She was ghastly in every way. Scary bad. I never went back. Fortunately the next doctor said I was a normal intelligent bear and she didn’t recommend the community mental unhealth team not that being intelligent has anything to do with MI.. but they enjoy their opinions..

[TheSeaCat]

I miss wine and tequila, I'm on too many meds to risk drinking, I haven't had a drink since April. So have a glass for me.

I'm sick of doctors too it's nice that she at least understood your frustration. I'll let you in on a little secret most appointments are only 15 minutes in length and they do feel rushed and sometimes miss things. I'm sorry that is was in a class you are allergic to.

I'm getting my BS in Healthcare Administration so I understand about the broken system it's more about billing and less about patient care. It sucks, I doubt I'll be able to change much; but I certainly will try.

I've noticed some mental health providers think those with issues are unintelligent and easy to manipulate. I've walked out of a few offices because I felt like they didn't care about the patient, one gave me the newest medication on the market and told me my side effects weren't real. I get it. It's wrong and stupid how some of them act.

I don't know about another cave I live in a pretty small cave myself I can't find a pdoc or a therapist who's office I don't strut out of. I hope you feel better and it's always great talking to you.

[~Christina]

You are not wrong for feeling like you do.

Be your own best advocate and if you need to get loud and stand your ground then do so.

You can do this

Originally Posted by TheSeaCat

I miss wine and tequila, I'm on too many meds to risk drinking, I haven't had a drink since April. So have a glass for me.

I'm sick of doctors too it's nice that she at least understood your frustration. I'll let you in on a little secret most appointments are only 15 minutes in length and they do feel rushed and sometimes miss things. I'm sorry that is was in a class you are allergic to.

I agree. Psychiatric appointments tend to be short for a lot of us. It seems to be a quick in/out thing, like a revolving door.

Mine is 15 minutes, but my pdoc pays attention to everything I say/do. He's even willing to spend another 5-10 mins with me if need be (although that only happened once or twice for me). But that was when I was stressed and hallucinating all day nearly everyday, so we had to stay longer.

If I need to, I contact my pdoc's assistant on the phone to ask questions. It's pretty nice to have someone reachable outside of appts. So I think you could benefit from that a lot, Fuzzy, if you can find someone like that. They do exist out there, although may be a bit difficult to find. My first two pdocs rushed me out the door, so I know what you mean. They literally said, "we're out of time. We'll have to address this the next time." WTF. So I'm hallucinating and getting self-harm hallucinations, but you're basically saying, "too bad." Gee, thanks, assholes.

I eventually stood up for myself. I outright left those dirtbags and searched far and wide for someone "good." Idk how the NHS etc work in the UK, but you could always spend time researching doctors and stick with your s**tty pdocs just for the purpose of refills right now. But be sure to tell your doctor, "NO, I am ALLERGIC to this med / class of meds." Don't be afraid to say NO. Stand up for yourself and speak up. Don't even be afraid to tell them you're not okay with something, especially if their personal "beliefs" disagree with the literature, since literature is based on scientific research, not some random person's personal opinion.