[cashart10]

So, my daughter woke me up at 6 this morning (she goes to school earlier than her siblings and my husband takes her) asking if she could borrow a purse as she had left hers at my sister’s yesterday (oh joy) and I didn’t go to sleep until after 12 yesterday. My sleep, as I’ve mentioned, has been out of sorts anyway. Once I woke up, I just stayed awake and got the other kids on the bus and then went to breakfast with my husband as we planned. Well, while we were out, he said, “you’re manic”. I know I’ve mentioned, even very recently, that he always can tell by my eyes that I’m manic. Well, I ate carbs at breakfast and he said “you’re eating carbs.” I told him I was eating some carbs because I wanted them but he told me that normal Sarah doesn’t do that. He said he could see it in my eyes. He also said that’s why I didn’t go back to sleep after my daughter woke me up. I asked him who goes from depressed to manic over night. And his response was “you do!!! You have bipolar.” So anyway, I told him I don’t feel manic (but I don’t really feel depressed today either) and he said it didn’t matter and he would be watching me closely and he is nervous now about me taking this new antidepressant. So now I’m nervous too. When we started Welbutrin, it worked fine. But, a couple years ago we started an anti depressant (I cant remember which one although it may have been an ssri) and I completely lost my mind in a very short time. Do I call my pdoc just based on such a simple observation and suggest halting the trintellex? Or do I just hang steady and keep taking it? Since breakfast I don’t think I’ve done anything out of the ordinary. I took a walk with my aunt, straightened the house, and picked up my daughter and that’s pretty much all. My husband has been sleeping since right after we went to breakfast as he has to work tonight. I’m not sure what to do. Maybe I’m just being silly? Thoughts?

Hi cashart. Your question is one that many of us have dealt with at some point or another, especially in the beginnings of our illness or during/just after some of the worst times. The questions can easily be "Is he/she (or am I) overreacting?" or "Do they really accurately sense something is happening?" I think in the latter case, I like to give it a little extra time to see what happens next, as long as the situation isn't clearly urgent. I have my prn (as needed) medications when needed. If things progress, then calling the psychiatrist is important. But in the former case, a healing process needs to be done. That can take those around us (or even us, ourselves) seeing that little changes won't always add up to emergency. Clouds don't always signal hurricane. Breezes don't always signal a tornado is about to come.



I hope the rest of your day will be pleasant and peaceful. Don't be too afraid to enjoy it.

[cashart10]

Originally Posted by BirdDancer

Hi cashart. Your question is one that many of us have dealt with at some point or another, especially in the beginnings of our illness or during/just after some of the worst times. The questions can easily be "Is he/she (or am I) overreacting?" or "Do they really accurately sense something is happening?" I think in the latter case, I like to give it a little extra time to see what happens next, as long as the situation isn't clearly urgent. I have my prn (as needed) medications when needed. If things progress, then calling the psychiatrist is important. But in the former case, a healing process needs to be done. That can take those around us (or even us, ourselves) seeing that little changes won't always add up to emergency. Clouds don't always signal hurricane. Breezes don't always signal a tornado is about to come.



I hope the rest of your day will be pleasant and peaceful. Don't be too afraid to enjoy it.

Thank you! That does make sense and is reassuring. I do also have Klonapin as a prn. He won’t back down though. He woke up about 40 minutes ago and told me he could still tell. Idk? I guess we will just have to wait and see.

[bpcyclist]

I would also give this probably at least a day to see where it goes, unless something dramtic changes.

[fern46]

Originally Posted by cashart10

So, my daughter woke me up at 6 this morning (she goes to school earlier than her siblings and my husband takes her) asking if she could borrow a purse as she had left hers at my sister’s yesterday (oh joy) and I didn’t go to sleep until after 12 yesterday. My sleep, as I’ve mentioned, has been out of sorts anyway. Once I woke up, I just stayed awake and got the other kids on the bus and then went to breakfast with my husband as we planned. Well, while we were out, he said, “you’re manic”. I know I’ve mentioned, even very recently, that he always can tell by my eyes that I’m manic. Well, I ate carbs at breakfast and he said “you’re eating carbs.” I told him I was eating some carbs because I wanted them but he told me that normal Sarah doesn’t do that. He said he could see it in my eyes. He also said that’s why I didn’t go back to sleep after my daughter woke me up. I asked him who goes from depressed to manic over night. And his response was “you do!!! You have bipolar.” So anyway, I told him I don’t feel manic (but I don’t really feel depressed today either) and he said it didn’t matter and he would be watching me closely and he is nervous now about me taking this new antidepressant. So now I’m nervous too. When we started Welbutrin, it worked fine. But, a couple years ago we started an anti depressant (I cant remember which one although it may have been an ssri) and I completely lost my mind in a very short time. Do I call my pdoc just based on such a simple observation and suggest halting the trintellex? Or do I just hang steady and keep taking it? Since breakfast I don’t think I’ve done anything out of the ordinary. I took a walk with my aunt, straightened the house, and picked up my daughter and that’s pretty much all. My husband has been sleeping since right after we went to breakfast as he has to work tonight. I’m not sure what to do. Maybe I’m just being silly? Thoughts?

You've mentioned he sees iy in your eyes. I'm curious now... Maybe take a picture of yourself and compare it to a balanced time and see if it looks different.

Other than that, I agree with BirdDancer and bpcyclist. Give it a bit of time to see how it pans out. Keep track of your mood, eating and sleep. Also, I think music is usually involved in your episodes, so look for changes there.

It is good you are open to his feedback. That's important.

[HALLIEBETH87]

It could
Just be a One day thing, ya know?

Your eyes do look a bit dilated in the first photo, but I'd first look for other symptoms before panicking. Please see a PM I'm going to send you now.

[cashart10]

Originally Posted by HALLIEBETH87

It could
Just be a One day thing, ya know?

That is true. What does concern me is that I have been taking this medicine for just a little over a week which seems like the perfect amount of time for this sort of reaction. But, I do think he just has me ill at ease for no reason at the moment.

[fern46]

I didn't mean post them here, I meant maybe compare them on your own to see what your husband is referencing. I see a difference though like BirdDancer mentioned.

[fern46]

Originally Posted by cashart10

That is true. What does concern me is that I have been taking this medicine for just a little over a week which seems like the perfect amount of time for this sort of reaction. But, I do think he just has me ill at ease for no reason at the moment.

Maybe the med is causing your pupils to dilate and it has nothing to do with potential mania? A possibility to consider.

[*Beth*]

I do want to throw out there, however, that according to what my pdoc and therapist keep insisting that regardless of what the DSM5 says, BP moods can (and do) change in an erratic manner. Sometimes long episodes, etc. - and sometimes within hours. So "overnight" actually is possible.

That said, I'm of the thought that waiting a bit would be wise.

[cashart10]

Originally Posted by fern46

Maybe the med is causing your pupils to dilate and it has nothing to do with potential mania? A possibility to consider.

Hadn’t thought of that and it’s a great point. I may bring it up to him as well and see if it changes his mind any. I am thinking at this point unless I flat out don’t sleep at all tonight, that’s more than likely just not the case.

[cashart10]

Shew...now I just tried to help my son with his homework (that he is entirely clueless about) and my brain beyond hurts. He is doing long division but instead of traditional long division, he is doing a version of division called base-ten area model division. I’m sure it’s probably not hard once you learn it but trying to follow a YouTube tutorial is making me want to pull my hair out. I’m going to wait until my husband is home tomorrow night to see if he has better luck and if not I’m going to have to pull in his teacher. 😳😳😳