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Old Dec 30, 2009, 07:56 PM
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because if there is ever a disagreement of the mind and heart, it's because I'm delusional!

Not that anyone in my life actually UNDERSTANDS this illness and how it manifests (they always get stuck in the literal description and apply it to anything and everything I say and do).

Like I can NEVER have a valid thought? Like nothing I say holds any value?

I AM NOT STUPID!!! Emotional? Yes! Dramatic? Yes! Always delusional? NO!

How does one EVER get passed this stigma?
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Old Dec 30, 2009, 08:55 PM
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Yikes! That sounds rough. I can empathize with you.
You can't force them to understand. but perhaps someone who knows a lot on this disorder can take them aside and inform them? Or maybe if they are the kind that would read up on facts then maybe pursue showing them those.
No matter what, what you feel and think is real. Just because it may not be accurate does not mean that it isn't real! (I hope that makes sense on how i'm meaning it).
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Old Dec 30, 2009, 09:31 PM
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*heh* just freakin'' out...

No where else to freak out! I never know if I am losing it sometimes.

It's just a moment where I can focus a freak out on a screen (albeit a LIVE screen - but that's another matter...) and avert another heartbreaking "trip"
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Old Dec 30, 2009, 09:37 PM
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Ooops...I shouldn't mean "that's another matter" I'M SORRY!

*sigh*
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Old Dec 30, 2009, 09:58 PM
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No matter what, what you feel and think is real. Just because it may not be accurate does not mean that it isn't real! (I hope that makes sense on how i'm meaning it).


Is it real?! FEELS real - only to me, apparently. It's like I am not allowed to be incensed at the world, nor express it without being accused of not "knowing what I am talking about!" My expressions are valid - borderline or not! They have value! They are other points of view to consider in the grand scheme of points of view, don't you think? They are NOT that far swung in the pendulum! In the grand scheme of being human (and the testament to it by being here), I DO FIT!!
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Old Dec 30, 2009, 10:04 PM
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...I guess I am looking for validation... at least for giving consideration to a matter that others may consider invalid (not real; not possible; not applicable...)

I am overwhelmed!
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Old Dec 31, 2009, 03:27 PM
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Is it real?! FEELS real - only to me, apparently. It's like I am not allowed to be incensed at the world, nor express it without being accused of not "knowing what I am talking about!" My expressions are valid - borderline or not! They have value! They are other points of view to consider in the grand scheme of points of view, don't you think? They are NOT that far swung in the pendulum! In the grand scheme of being human (and the testament to it by being here), I DO FIT!!
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Old Dec 31, 2009, 03:34 PM
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...I guess I am looking for validation... at least for giving consideration to a matter that others may consider invalid (not real; not possible; not applicable...)

I am overwhelmed!


Well I don't really know your full situation, but I can assure you that your feelings are thoughts are real, and valid. I'm sorry that those around you deny to realize that as well.
If you ever want to talk, or blow of steam, or anything you can PM me.
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Old Dec 31, 2009, 06:24 PM
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Oh the relief!!!.......if others could see into our minds.......so we would not have to explain.

Alteredstate.......whatever you think, feel and believe is yours alone. No-one can question with any validity what you believe to be true.

Do not fall in to the trap of thinking that what you feel or think is not valuable.......as I did.

Forgive the masses......for they do not understand. And without sounding terribly contrite, you do not need them to. Communication of cognition comes with time. In the meantime, make sure your needs are met. If they are not and you feel that you constantly have to fight for your place, back away, peacefully........knowing......

That you do not need them to validate, appreciate, understand or approve. How you are is just fine.......even if it feels chaotic sometimes.......we cannot beat stigma.......but we sure can rise above it.

You are you......you are precious.......you are loved.......and

Love thyself..........you do not need to explain.

We are here.

In stillness,

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Old Jan 01, 2010, 10:38 PM
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Alteredstate.......whatever you think, feel and believe is yours alone. No-one can question with any validity what you believe to be true.

Do not fall in to the trap of thinking that what you feel or think is not valuable.......as I did.

Forgive the masses......for they do not understand...you do not need them to validate, appreciate, understand or approve. How you are is just fine.......even if it feels chaotic sometimes.......we cannot beat stigma.......but we sure can rise above it.

You are you......you are precious.......you are loved.......and

Love thyself..........you do not need to explain.

We are here.

In stillness,

Michah
Yes. In stillness. Wait for the stillness. It comes. Just like all the other cycles of emotions, it comes again, too.

Thank you, Micah. THIS is what I need to remember the most!

And thank you for help starting my year off on a good note!
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Old Jan 05, 2010, 09:18 PM
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You have every right to feel the way you do. You know how you feel! So many people don't understand that those with this diagnosis feel things so much more intensely than the rest of the world. I even told my therapist the other day.. I just want someone to understand. I can empathize with you.
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