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Old Feb 14, 2016, 03:29 AM
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I find it absolutely hilarious. At home - if I say g'morn or some other mundane comment, that's fine, it's either reciprocated or ignored. Same when I go out places. Pretty sure same thing is true in those instances for the vast portion of humanity I would venture a guess to say.

Now, here's where it MAY be a little different. Some might have the same experience and others may not. Many (not all) times, when I express any true personal thoughts or feelings - doesn't matter what they are or who they are directed toward, somehow someone gets angry. Doesn't even have to be a person I was initially speaking to nor speaking about - but that person will still find a way to get angry.

Doesn't even seem to matter anymore if it's at home, out of home, online or where - but it does seem to happen much of the time. Perhaps I just am not supposed to talk about my thoughts or feelings - or maybe I am just evil.

That's not the laughable part though.

The laughable part is those who I talk to about my thoughts and feelings or the places I opt to do it at - say "be open, be honest, tell me what's going on in your head/heart" - and I trust them enough to do it each time
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Old Feb 14, 2016, 06:47 AM
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Somehow I've experienced something a bit similar. If I express what's fully on my mind, which yes I admit can be very negative, people get angry or frustrated. I guess they think I'm supposed to be able to easily walk away from my problems, which I definitely would if I could, but that's simply not realistic. Just like you said, they assure me that it's fine to talk about what's going on in my head but then they say things like "oh come on, don't say that...hey, can we change the subject? This is too serious" when they're the ones who asked to begin with!

What really angered me the other day was this one person's remark when I told him that it's a bit more complicated than just "triggering the good chemicals in my brain." He said "So it's more complicated than we think?" to which I responded with "Of course. These are very severe mental illnesses." He then replied with "Yours ain't that severe." That REALLY pissed me off. He said that after I had just got done telling him how unable to function I am because of my mental illnesses, and he minimized my problems. I let him know how offended I was and he responded with "Jeez, no need to be so serious with me." Oh. My bad for having seriously crippling disorders.
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Old Feb 14, 2016, 10:24 AM
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I have a similar issues. Recently I decided to expression my emotions when I got upset, but it turned ugly because they spun out of control and I almost lost the friendship. Just by being honest. We're still friends, but it's not the same, and I'm still a little hurt by what she did. Though in the grand scheme of things I know it wasn't that bad. I don't feel like I can be emotionally honest with anyone without losing it. And making people upset or angry.

I bet you're not even a confrontational person. :/

Maybe its in how we deliver our emotions. Do you have trouble expressing your needs? Like...you need someone to talk to. Or need a hug. Or need to tell something to someone desperately. Or when you need help. This is something I struggle with. At work I've gotten better about asking for help. Here you can talk about anything, just about, to anyone.

I kind of think people can;t handle our emotions. Because they are so intense and erratic, people are baffled or have no idea how to react. I get that an awful lot. Just try not to feel ashamed of yourself, okay?

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Old Feb 14, 2016, 12:50 PM
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I have found it to be a problem on here as well recently.

But as off site - even when I express opinions not related to emotions, it ends up upsetting someone somehow it seems. I can say "wow, it's too cold out today!" and my ex husband will at times find ways to get upset at me for that. I can post a post on facebook expressing a view I have about some current event and get about 20 hate comments back in about an hour.
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Old Feb 14, 2016, 04:49 PM
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I have found it to be a problem on here as well recently.

But as off site - even when I express opinions not related to emotions, it ends up upsetting someone somehow it seems. I can say "wow, it's too cold out today!" and my ex husband will at times find ways to get upset at me for that. I can post a post on facebook expressing a view I have about some current event and get about 20 hate comments back in about an hour.
Getting mad at you about your opinion on the weather? Wow..that's a bit excessive of them. Yeah..I'm pretty hesitant with posting about my opinion on current events for that very same reason. People get angry at me for expressing my opinion on very minor subjects enough as it is.
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Old Feb 14, 2016, 06:34 PM
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Getting mad at you about your opinion on the weather? Wow..that's a bit excessive of them. Yeah..I'm pretty hesitant with posting about my opinion on current events for that very same reason. People get angry at me for expressing my opinion on very minor subjects enough as it is.
Yea, if it's something that mundane like the weather he gets upset at me for commenting on usually it's either cuz he thinks I am being lazy and don't wanna go somewhere or else he has been really excited about doing something and thinks I won't let him now. But yea - I don't understand why so much judgemental anger.
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Now, here's where it MAY be a little different. Some might have the same experience and others may not. Many (not all) times, when I express any true personal thoughts or feelings - doesn't matter what they are or who they are directed toward, somehow someone gets angry. Doesn't even have to be a person I was initially speaking to nor speaking about - but that person will still find a way to get angry.
I definitely relate. People always SAY they want to hear your thoughts and feelings, but then they get angry and behave punitively if what they hear isn't what they imagined or desired to hear. People rarely accept the feelings and thoughts of others, I've found, especially when you're "different".

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Doesn't even seem to matter anymore if it's at home, out of home, online or where - but it does seem to happen much of the time. Perhaps I just am not supposed to talk about my thoughts or feelings - or maybe I am just evil.
I feel you. It's surely easier and less painful that way, isn't it?

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The laughable part is those who I talk to about my thoughts and feelings or the places I opt to do it at - say "be open, be honest, tell me what's going on in your head/heart" - and I trust them enough to do it each time
I am convinced that almost everyone is lying when they say that. They say it because it sounds good, because it makes them feel lofty and noble, but when it comes down to it, most people do NOT want to hear the truth at all. Ever. Honesty, so highly touted, is actually taboo. How ironic. We are all supposed to pretend, apparently. I hate the stupid games that people play and the way they expect that everyone else will/must play with them.
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Old Feb 15, 2016, 10:13 PM
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I definitely relate. People always SAY they want to hear your thoughts and feelings, but then they get angry and behave punitively if what they hear isn't what they imagined or desired to hear. People rarely accept the feelings and thoughts of others, I've found, especially when you're "different".

I feel you. It's surely easier and less painful that way, isn't it?


I am convinced that almost everyone is lying when they say that. They say it because it sounds good, because it makes them feel lofty and noble, but when it comes down to it, most people do NOT want to hear the truth at all. Ever. Honesty, so highly touted, is actually taboo. How ironic. We are all supposed to pretend, apparently. I hate the stupid games that people play and the way they expect that everyone else will/must play with them.

I don't think everyone is lying when they say it, but I do think many are only prepared to hear what they can agree with or what their mind can readily accept easily. It makes it hard to be honest- I have found rather than being openly honest as I used to be now I have become a "reclusively honest" person because of it and I don't like it but I don't know if there is any other way of staying healthy either.
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Old Feb 15, 2016, 10:18 PM
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I don't think everyone is lying when they say it, but I do think many are only prepared to hear what they can agree with or what their mind can readily accept easily. It makes it hard to be honest- I have found rather than being openly honest as I used to be now I have become a "reclusively honest" person because of it and I don't like it but I don't know if there is any other way of staying healthy either.
"Reclusively honest" is a good way to describe it. Same here.

Hmm, seems like someone here just can't leave you alone and wants to stalk your posts with nasty remarks. Looks like harassment to me.
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Old Feb 15, 2016, 10:26 PM
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"Reclusively honest" is a good way to describe it. Same here.

Hmm, seems like someone here just can't leave you alone and wants to stalk your posts with nasty remarks. Looks like harassment to me.
I'm sorry you have to deal with people in the same way I have had to learn. It doesn't "feel right" to me.
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Old Feb 15, 2016, 10:29 PM
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I'm sorry you have to deal with people in the same way I have had to learn. It doesn't "feel right" to me.
Thank you. It doesn't feel right to me either. It's my inclination to be open and honest, and it has taken a lot to dissuade me from persisting in my natural way of being.
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Old Feb 16, 2016, 10:28 AM
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Thank you. It doesn't feel right to me either. It's my inclination to be open and honest, and it has taken a lot to dissuade me from persisting in my natural way of being.
I am the same way and yea, I went through a lot of hurt before I "changed". So I understand.
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