I will ask this but it will soon be buried and forgotten. Have any of you in the States got anything stronger that OxyContin from your Pain Doc??? I told mine from the very beginning what works and what doesn`t after 35 days in the hospital on 4 different occasions and 3 surgeries, I think I know. I know Medical Weed is legal or soon to be in Ohio, but from what I read it is about worthless. Anyways, Morphine and Dilaudid sp???? where the only things that ever worked, but I got the old, I don`t prescribe them. And don't` tell me it`s in my head, because you are full of it. You can come over and look at all the surgery scars yourself. I probably just wasted my time writing this to begin with!

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Originally Posted by igiveupinohio

I will ask this but it will soon be buried and forgotten. Have any of you in the States got anything stronger that OxyContin from your Pain Doc??? I told mine from the very beginning what works and what doesn`t after 35 days in the hospital on 4 different occasions and 3 surgeries, I think I know. I know Medical Weed is legal or soon to be in Ohio, but from what I read it is about worthless. Anyways, Morphine and Dilaudid sp???? where the only things that ever worked, but I got the old, I don`t prescribe them. And don't` tell me it`s in my head, because you are full of it. You can come over and look at all the surgery scars yourself. I probably just wasted my time writing this to begin with!

You can get morphine. I'm not sure what's stronger in rx form. Beyond that is an internal pain pump where they can put stronger meds (my ex's mom had dualadid (sp?) in her pain pump.

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I wish I could. It took me over a year to get OxyContin out of him. Pain doctors in Ohio are very, very leery about what they prescribe. I will see if I can find a doc that will do the weed if I live that long. Doc, I have now said it was supposed to be full blown, but you can`t smoke it??? What makes the difference???? Ohio is one of the most FUed states!! We haven't even talked about pain pumps because I think I have at least one or two more surgeries coming up. I had a pump at the hospital. I think I wore the button out on it!

[htoun]

Have a friend in pain she says Oxys don't cut the pain. She does smoke weed seems to help but I know it wouldn't help me.

And yeah I hate drs who say if you want to get better you have to do it my way. Then tell you to take something your allergic to or something you know will not work. We actually know things about our bodies.

My husband has had reflex sympathetic dystrophy since 1985. He has an internal morphine pump and a spinal cord stimulator. The morphine pump really generally has to be used to very specifically located pain. It can be difficult to find a truly competent pain specialist to work with. Even in a major metropolitan area, it takes some searching to find a pain specialist who works with morphine pumps. It takes jumping through many hoops to get insurance to approve implantation because they are expensive to maintain long-term. Each time he needs a refill (about every 3 months) it is about $3,000-$4,000 charged to insurance, so insurance generally won't approve morphine pumps except in the most extreme cases when absolutely every other mode of treatment has been tried and a trial test has been done to see if a patient's particular kind of pain will even respond to the morphine pump. In my husband's case, the morphine pump relieves about 50% of his pain -- occasionally more -- but his pain level is extremely high. RSD is horrendous.

[snarkydaddy]

fentanyl lollipops are available here but there are highly addictive.
I used them in the past for chronic pain from an accident.

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Originally Posted by snarkydaddy

fental lollipops are available here but there are highly addictive.
I used them in the past for chronic pain from an accident.

It also comes in nasal spray and lozenges

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[snarkydaddy]

Originally Posted by A18793715

It also comes in nasal spray and lozenges

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I think I would have chosen the nasal spray if given the choice again.

[Blues066]

Originally Posted by igiveupinohio

I wish I could. It took me over a year to get OxyContin out of him. Pain doctors in Ohio are very, very leery about what they prescribe. I will see if I can find a doc that will do the weed if I live that long. Doc, I have now said it was supposed to be full blown, but you can`t smoke it??? What makes the difference???? Ohio is one of the most FUed states!! We haven't even talked about pain pumps because I think I have at least one or two more surgeries coming up. I had a pump at the hospital. I think I wore the button out on it!

I had to switch Pain doctors, well haven't yet, I unexpectedly had to move from Texas to West Virginia the beginning of August, and I had been going to the same Pain Doc for the last 12 years...I have been taking pain meds for back problems for back pain....I am going to have to find a new doc here... I called a week ago to try to get an appointment with a General Practice doctor here, because there aren't any Pain Docs in my network on my insurance here in West Virginia or Ohio... lucky me...anyway I called them and they said they will not write prescriptions for controlled substances and I wont find a doctor in this area that will with the bad meth and heroin problem around here...so I am going to have to wean myself off my pain meds and I guess take aleve or something unless they can prescribe something that's not controlled to help with pain...that's stronger than Aleve. I already have a pain level of 5-6 with pain med, and its a 10 without..and the depression is horrible trying to deal with the pain.

I hope you are able to find somebody. It took me 3 tries until I found someone who would give you something narcotic. Had one that just doing the shots in my spine. They never worked. Then he wanted to stick some kind of stimulator or something in my back. I don`t think so. 2nd guy kept prescribing stuff like epileptic meds, didn`t take long to dump him. 3rd guy started me right out on Percocet's and something else. Can`t remember what. They doctors are just scared to give narcotics out up here anymore.

[A18793715]

Originally Posted by igiveupinohio

I hope you are able to find somebody. It took me 3 tries until I found someone who would give you something narcotic. Had one that just doing the shots in my spine. They never worked. Then he wanted to stick some kind of stimulator or something in my back. I don`t think so. 2nd guy kept prescribing stuff like epileptic meds, didn`t take long to dump him. 3rd guy started me right out on Percocet's and something else. Can`t remember what. They doctors are just scared to give narcotics out up here anymore.

That's how it is with me. But I don't know what to do because I found out hydrocodone (I don't know about all opiates) makes me extremely emotional. I'll end up crying over something tiny every 5 minutes. Tramadol makes me throw up. I don't know what else there is in oral meds other than stepping up to oxycodone to see how that effects me.

Spinal injections are a joke.

I was switched over to OxyContin a little over a month ago, no change at all. He kept me on the Percs and dropped the Methadone. He said when my body gets use to the OxyContin, he will switch me back to the Methadone. From what I have heard about those spinal stimulators, most of the time they do not work as intended and you have to go around with this thing implanted in the small of your back. It has been described as having someone squeeze, vibrate, etc your innerds. I have been cut open enough the past 4 years, so I basically told him what he could do with his stimulator and never went back! I do not recommend getting one of those.

My husband liked his spinal cord stimulator. The problem for him is that the level of his pain is so high that he runs through the battery life very quickly. Fortunately though, they have apparently come up with a better rechargeable system so that he wouldn't have to undergo surgery for battery replacement frequently. He is hopefully getting the new system in a few months because he really needs the combination of the morphine pump and stimulator to help with his pain level.

[eskielover]

I have been on pain meds since my neck fusion in 1999. I have migraine pain that doesn't go away & the pain meds are the only thing that works (even though pain specialists swear that narcotics don't work on migraines). I can't use migraine meds because they don't work in the first place & mess with my heart in the second place.

Right after the surgery, the dose of the fentynal patch didn't work. The pain specialist I went to after the surgery gave me the patch & then other pain meds to suppliment (none worked) until he supplimented it with the Actiq (fentynal lollipop). It worked until they changed the formulation but I had to use it every 4 hours to keep the pain away (at least I had 3 good hours between that I could function). When they changed the formulation, it quit working all together. But I thought, if the fentynal was working why not just increase the patch level. That pain specialist wouldn't prescribe more patch even though it was no different than prescribing the Actiq. I found a pain specialist who had his own practice but was also tied to UCLA. He had no problem prescribing the extra patch. I had already been on it 4 years so he knew that there was no addiction problem. I was on the higher dose that worked perfect & no breakthrough pain.

Well, that was in California & in 2007 I moved to Kentucky. I managed to find ONE pain specialist who was willing to continue the prescription at that same level until he closed his practice a few years ago to to practice through a hospital doing injections as he knew that the prescribing difficulties that were coming through the government crack down on prescribing narcotics. He had already come under investigation once before I started going to him & he wasn't found guilty but it could have cost him his practice.

So then I had to find another pain specialist & NONE were willing to prescribe the dose I was on. I went to EVERY pain specialist group around where I lived. I was even at the point of thinking I might have to go back to California (that would have been a horrible choice).

I had a pharmacist friend who knew this wonderful pain specialist who wasn't practicing any longer but was taking on patients as a consultant at the practice he had established years ago. He willingly took me on as his patient but as with the rest, was only willing to prescribe 1/2 of what I had been on but he was the only one that offered a treatment option to help me stay out of pain on that lesser dose. It's a strange treatment that involved lidocain gel on long q-tips placed in the back of my nose very close to the brain's pain center. He said this had been a migraine treatment that was done long before migraine meds were developed. To my surprise, it works & I'm still doing it once a month to keep the migraine pain stabilized. I am not pain free as I was on the higher dose, but I am more pain free with the treatment than I was with JUST the lower dose.

This pain specialist group is one of the best in the area where I live & people come from all over to see the MD's that practice there.

I know that the DEA is making it a lot more difficult on prescribing narcotics than ever before.

The problem with weed is that it can cause psychotic issues. I wouldn't even want to chance a reaction like that. I have bad side effects with too many meds. I can't take morphine or dilaudid (a morphine derivative) They make me itch from head to toe so that eliminates much of the pain meds available. Demoral was the only shot that worked to relieve my migraine pain before the surgery & before the fentynal. I'm just thankful that I don't have an addiction problem & that the same dose worked for me without any need for increase for 10 years.

The cost of this med is impossible to pay for even with medicare prescription coverage. On this lower dose, it runs $1500/month. It was well over $2500 on the higher dose. If it wasn't for patient assistance.

The other problem is that the generic patches don't work at all.....there is only one brand that actually uses the same processing plant as the name brand & that one works but patient assistance only covers the name brand....that defines what I get.

[snarkydaddy]

Yes fentanyl, I was on it for a year and a half.

[eyesclosed]

When I was driving medicaid transit I would go the methadone clinic every morning most were on it for heroin but a older gent he was using it for pain. It was unbelievable at 6:00 am when the door was unlocked it was a mad dash to get in line . I think suboxone is another did u know these young people get ssi for being a heroin addict. Excuse me dependent.

[HenryWilliams]

Hi there, I agree with you that doctors are scared to give narcotics out up anymore.

[misscath007]

In Florida, it is very difficult to get narcotics because of the high abuse potential. My neurologist gave me a one month dose of oxy and I am stretching them out as much as possible. I am seeing a pain dr. soon and will see what other options there are. I hate taking pain meds, but sometimes they are needed.