[Open Eyes]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/brain-res...230124751.html

It's nice to read about these studies in that they help scientists to see what patients may have learned to feel about themselves due to a history of being exposed to dysfunctional and even abusive individuals where they unknowingly are taught to "feel" words in a way where they feel emotional stress and extremely depressed and debilitated.

A person who has been abused in some way can have a strong desire to "write a letter" to their abuser for example. I know I myself have had this desire and while I want to write a letter where I can say how I feel and tell someone that hurt me how they have hurt me or behaved badly, the desire has a lot to do with being able to say how I feel without being interrupted and dismissed.

For example, if I relate how I see a situation or problem with someone in my life that is very controlling, I can always expect that person to say "that's not it". That person's intent is to dismiss what I see or think and feel about a situation because that other person insists that everyone see things "her/his" way.

I suffer from complex PTSD and that developed after I suffered a lot of loss that traumatized me so much that I was completely overwhelmed. I was trapped in addressing so much loss every day and faced even more traumatic losses and I got to the point where I was so exhausted mentally, physically, and emotionally that I felt suicidal in that I could not face yet another day of experiencing constant loss and not having a way to escape this new day after day of dealing with all the damage I was dealing with. This led to my experiencing a post traumatic breakdown. I did not know what that was, no one expects to suddenly face so much loss and get to a point where they have to deal with this loss and get overwhelmed to the point of mental and emotional and physical exhaustion.

I ended up in a psych ward and all I talked about was needing "rest and grief counseling". I did not get that and instead I was only further traumatized and was now in an environment I did not feel "safe" in. I was exhibiting all the red flags that clearly indicated "trauma patient" and I was also experiencing bad "trauma chills". My written records reflect that while I tried to explain the value of the loss and how I got so completely overwhelmed, the reaction was that I should not have valued what I had lost and that I was wrong for suffering the way I was suffering. My family was angry with me and did not visit me and my older sister would not let my parents come and visit me. When I read about the significance of "words" as described in this article, I do think about the words I spoke and the words that are in my records with my words and the words in my records that reflect how I should not value and deeply grieve and be traumatized by what I lost and witnessed. And how my words were dismissed when I really needed them to be HEARD.

This time of year is THE time of year that I experienced this post traumatic breakdown and desperately needed rest and grief counseling and instead got neither but was further traumatized and even shunned for "needing and hurting". I did not find the right kind of therapist until three and a half years later when I went from having a post traumatic breakdown and developed PTSD and then began to experience confusing and often debilitating flashbacks from my past. I am so grateful for this therapist that understood trauma and the WORDS that were helpful instead of the WORDS that only further traumatize.

A study like this is important in that it provides the proof of how words and language can have a negative affect on a human brain. Often an individual can struggle with how words can trigger them to feeling depressed and powerless in some way without really understanding this on a conscious level.
That being said, there is yet another challenge when it comes to "words" that I had to spend a lot of time understanding as well. I had to learn how to "help" a challenged child who had a learning disability when it came to words and seeing them in writing and the words expressed to that child that made that challenge affect an ability to develop healthy self esteem. This study can also be helpful when it comes to that challenge in that when it comes to this challenge teachers and other important mentors can help these individuals develop "healthy" self esteem despite this challenge.

[Trace14]

Originally Posted by Open Eyes

https://www.yahoo.com/news/brain-res...230124751.html

It's nice to read about these studies in that they help scientists to see what patients may have learned to feel about themselves due to a history of being exposed to dysfunctional and even abusive individuals where they unknowingly are taught to "feel" words in a way where they feel emotional stress and extremely depressed and debilitated.

A person who has been abused in some way can have a strong desire to "write a letter" to their abuser for example. I know I myself have had this desire and while I want to write a letter where I can say how I feel and tell someone that hurt me how they have hurt me or behaved badly, the desire has a lot to do with being able to say how I feel without being interrupted and dismissed.

For example, if I relate how I see a situation or problem with someone in my life that is very controlling, I can always expect that person to say "that's not it". That person's intent is to dismiss what I see or think and feel about a situation because that other person insists that everyone see things "her/his" way.

I suffer from complex PTSD and that developed after I suffered a lot of loss that traumatized me so much that I was completely overwhelmed. I was trapped in addressing so much loss every day and faced even more traumatic losses and I got to the point where I was so exhausted mentally, physically, and emotionally that I felt suicidal in that I could not face yet another day of experiencing constant loss and not having a way to escape this new day after day of dealing with all the damage I was dealing with. This led to my experiencing a post traumatic breakdown. I did not know what that was, no one expects to suddenly face so much loss and get to a point where they have to deal with this loss and get overwhelmed to the point of mental and emotional and physical exhaustion.

I ended up in a psych ward and all I talked about was needing "rest and grief counseling". I did not get that and instead I was only further traumatized and was now in an environment I did not feel "safe" in. I was exhibiting all the red flags that clearly indicated "trauma patient" and I was also experiencing bad "trauma chills". My written records reflect that while I tried to explain the value of the loss and how I got so completely overwhelmed, the reaction was that I should not have valued what I had lost and that I was wrong for suffering the way I was suffering. My family was angry with me and did not visit me and my older sister would not let my parents come and visit me. When I read about the significance of "words" as described in this article, I do think about the words I spoke and the words that are in my records with my words and the words in my records that reflect how I should not value and deeply grieve and be traumatized by what I lost and witnessed. And how my words were dismissed when I really needed them to be HEARD.

This time of year is THE time of year that I experienced this post traumatic breakdown and desperately needed rest and grief counseling and instead got neither but was further traumatized and even shunned for "needing and hurting". I did not find the right kind of therapist until three and a half years later when I went from having a post traumatic breakdown and developed PTSD and then began to experience confusing and often debilitating flashbacks from my past. I am so grateful for this therapist that understood trauma and the WORDS that were helpful instead of the WORDS that only further traumatize.

A study like this is important in that it provides the proof of how words and language can have a negative affect on a human brain. Often an individual can struggle with how words can trigger them to feeling depressed and powerless in some way without really understanding this on a conscious level.
That being said, there is yet another challenge when it comes to "words" that I had to spend a lot of time understanding as well. I had to learn how to "help" a challenged child who had a learning disability when it came to words and seeing them in writing and the words expressed to that child that made that challenge affect an ability to develop healthy self esteem. This study can also be helpful when it comes to that challenge in that when it comes to this challenge teachers and other important mentors can help these individuals develop "healthy" self esteem despite this challenge.

Thanks for sharing. I'm sure this was difficult to write.

[Fuzzybear]

Thanks for sharing OE

Originally Posted by Open Eyes

https://www.yahoo.com/news/brain-res...230124751.html

It's nice to read about these studies in that they help scientists to see what patients may have learned to feel about themselves due to a history of being exposed to dysfunctional and even abusive individuals where they unknowingly are taught to "feel" words in a way where they feel emotional stress and extremely depressed and debilitated.

A person who has been abused in some way can have a strong desire to "write a letter" to their abuser for example. I know I myself have had this desire and while I want to write a letter where I can say how I feel and tell someone that hurt me how they have hurt me or behaved badly, the desire has a lot to do with being able to say how I feel without being interrupted and dismissed.

For example, if I relate how I see a situation or problem with someone in my life that is very controlling, I can always expect that person to say "that's not it". That person's intent is to dismiss what I see or think and feel about a situation because that other person insists that everyone see things "her/his" way.

I suffer from complex PTSD and that developed after I suffered a lot of loss that traumatized me so much that I was completely overwhelmed. I was trapped in addressing so much loss every day and faced even more traumatic losses and I got to the point where I was so exhausted mentally, physically, and emotionally that I felt suicidal in that I could not face yet another day of experiencing constant loss and not having a way to escape this new day after day of dealing with all the damage I was dealing with. This led to my experiencing a post traumatic breakdown. I did not know what that was, no one expects to suddenly face so much loss and get to a point where they have to deal with this loss and get overwhelmed to the point of mental and emotional and physical exhaustion.

I ended up in a psych ward and all I talked about was needing "rest and grief counseling". I did not get that and instead I was only further traumatized and was now in an environment I did not feel "safe" in. I was exhibiting all the red flags that clearly indicated "trauma patient" and I was also experiencing bad "trauma chills". My written records reflect that while I tried to explain the value of the loss and how I got so completely overwhelmed, the reaction was that I should not have valued what I had lost and that I was wrong for suffering the way I was suffering. My family was angry with me and did not visit me and my older sister would not let my parents come and visit me. When I read about the significance of "words" as described in this article, I do think about the words I spoke and the words that are in my records with my words and the words in my records that reflect how I should not value and deeply grieve and be traumatized by what I lost and witnessed. And how my words were dismissed when I really needed them to be HEARD.

This time of year is THE time of year that I experienced this post traumatic breakdown and desperately needed rest and grief counseling and instead got neither but was further traumatized and even shunned for "needing and hurting". I did not find the right kind of therapist until three and a half years later when I went from having a post traumatic breakdown and developed PTSD and then began to experience confusing and often debilitating flashbacks from my past. I am so grateful for this therapist that understood trauma and the WORDS that were helpful instead of the WORDS that only further traumatize.

A study like this is important in that it provides the proof of how words and language can have a negative affect on a human brain. Often an individual can struggle with how words can trigger them to feeling depressed and powerless in some way without really understanding this on a conscious level.
That being said, there is yet another challenge when it comes to "words" that I had to spend a lot of time understanding as well. I had to learn how to "help" a challenged child who had a learning disability when it came to words and seeing them in writing and the words expressed to that child that made that challenge affect an ability to develop healthy self esteem. This study can also be helpful when it comes to that challenge in that when it comes to this challenge teachers and other important mentors can help these individuals develop "healthy" self esteem despite this challenge.

[Open Eyes]

I originally posted this in the Other Mental Health forum because I felt this information is not just for those who may struggle with PTSD, but also depression and anxiety.

One of the things I have noticed a lot lately is how the WORDS others choose to say to me do trigger me. When I experience a flashback be it emotional or visual and I find a need to talk about it, I have found the one thing that can trigger me even more is "that happened years ago you should not be thinking about that now".

What I have noticed is how "now" an individuals behaviors towards me and what they say can trigger me to remembering a past situation where this same individual hurt me and when I said something the person was dismissive with me and invalidated me in some way.

I have just noticed different members wanting to write a letter to individuals that neglected or abused them in some way. Often it's a family member or a parent even who would turn things around to blame them instead of listening and just continues to respond in the same dysfunctional manner. I am sorry these individuals continue to "want' to stand up to this toxic behavior and yet they tend to get the same dysfunctional responses.

[Fuzzybear]

I agree.. the tendency of the abusers, naturally, is to give the same dysfunctional response Thanks for sharing OE

Originally Posted by Open Eyes

I originally posted this in the Other Mental Health forum because I felt this information is not just for those who may struggle with PTSD, but also depression and anxiety.

One of the things I have noticed a lot lately is how the WORDS others choose to say to me do trigger me. When I experience a flashback be it emotional or visual and I find a need to talk about it, I have found the one thing that can trigger me even more is "that happened years ago you should not be thinking about that now".

What I have noticed is how "now" an individuals behaviors towards me and what they say can trigger me to remembering a past situation where this same individual hurt me and when I said something the person was dismissive with me and invalidated me in some way.

I have just noticed different members wanting to write a letter to individuals that neglected or abused them in some way. Often it's a family member or a parent even who would turn things around to blame them instead of listening and just continues to respond in the same dysfunctional manner. I am sorry these individuals continue to "want' to stand up to this toxic behavior and yet they tend to get the same dysfunctional responses.

[eskielover]

My question is why would we think they ever changed?

Sometimes we have to learn that SEKF-VALIDATION is the ONLY way we are going to experience ant validation regarding the abuse/neglect/trauma we went through when it comes to the actual people involved.

We want them to hear us but we cant FORCE them to want to hear....that is their chouce & there comes a time when we need tobgather our own strength together & write them out of our life.

Even with the crap my H is still creating in my life from 2100 miles away, I no longer alloe him to have the power over my emotions he had when I was living there....he no longer causes me to see red when dealing with the crap he causes & even though I am trapped in having to deal with the situations & I am no longer trapped in the way that caused me to atrempt suicide so often when I was trapped in having to luve in the same house.

Distancing from actions, words is necessary & expecting a different reaction out of someone who has never changed is either pure wishful thinking or just plain insanity on our part when they have given absolutely NO indication that any change has taken place.

It is important to learn skills that keep words from having that kind of power over us to continue to effect us in such negative ways.