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Old Jan 31, 2012, 10:27 PM
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Just food for thought:

If someone has the right to life, do you think they have the same right to death? Even after going through what I have gone through, I believe they do have that right, as it is their life.

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Old Feb 01, 2012, 07:20 AM
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Well it's their choice, I guess, and it's certainly not anyone else's choice, but I don't think it's a good choice. I think it's wrong for people to criticize suicide, and it's nobody's place to judge, but i don't think suicide is the right way out of a situation. However, I guess they do have a right to their own death. But it depends on what you believe, I think. Most Christians (which I don't know if I am anymore :/) would say that it's not our choice, it's God who should decide when we die. But other people would say that no one else controls our actions, and if we want to die, that is our right. I guess I'm somewhere in the middle. Interesting idea, though.
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Old Feb 03, 2012, 12:05 AM
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I both agree and disagree with you. First, I in no way want to empower people who kill themselves. I won't say it takes guts but I also won't criticize them. Having had an uncle kill himself I know the pain and process all too well. The decision is very personal and it can mean different things for different people. It makes no sense to divide up into camps about it. It's kind of like talking about religion. People have their beliefs and who is to say who is ultimately right or wrong about their viewpoint. You end up in a parallel argument with no resolution. I will address Kurt Cobain for a moment. He was definitely a favorite of mine and I remember how sad I was when he died. He suffered with bipolar disorder and drug addiction for years and he was the product of a very unhappy and dysfunctional family. I don't think he was either strong or weak when he died. He was terribly ill and depressed and defeated in drug treatment. I think he felt stuck at the end, like he didn't have many options. He eventually turned to what he knew, not because he was brave or weak but because he felt terribly limited. His story, I suppose like so many, is filled with sadness. Maybe if he had this forum and people to talk to, he would have chosen differently. I certainly hope that people who post here will take inventory of ALL their options before considering suicide. My uncle's suicide changed the family forever and I wouldn't want to wish this on anyone.
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Old Feb 03, 2012, 09:02 PM
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Old Feb 07, 2012, 05:52 PM
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I agree, and I am sorry that you lost your uncle. My aunt killed herself three years ago this mothers day and I can only imagine the pain his death brought your family as I know how it tore apart mine. My aunt had progressive MS, and tried several times to kill herself and each time it just hurt more and more. I know why she did kill herself, because of the excruciating pain she was in on a day to day basis (she could not walk more than 10 feet by herself towards the end). But even knowing why she did kill herself, did not make it any easier of a "pill to swallow" so to speak.
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