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Old Jan 23, 2013, 09:19 AM
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this isn't a suicidal post. i just want to know if other people's opinions on the romantication of death. I think this especially applies when love and broken hearts are involved. What are your thoughts on this?

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Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:38 AM
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Why does the author use these words? Because we are food for worms lads. Cause believe it or not each and everyone of us in this room is one day going to stop breathing, turn cold, and die. I'd like for you to step forward over here and peruse some of the faces from the past. You've walked past them many times, but I don't think you've really looked at them. They're not that different from you are they? Same haircuts, full of hormones just like you. Invincible, just like you feel. The world is their oyster. They believe they are destined for great things, just like many of you. Their eyes are full of hope, just like you. Did they wait until it was too late to make from their lives even one iota of what they were capable of? Cause you see gentlemen, these boys are now fertilizing daffodils, but if you listen real close you can hear them whisper their legacy to you. Go on, lean in. Listen, you hear it?
Hello, eonblue12. Perhaps the quote from the Dead Poets Society in more in line with my view.
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 11:17 AM
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Take some time to sit with the dying, in hospice or nursing home, young and old. Not romantic but there is a shared depth and something true, the other end of birth---if you allow.
Then again, there is Romeo and Juliet----forever young and untried in so many ways. Romantic but fleeting.
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 12:21 PM
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Yes, Winter4me, and it's the end of one form of life and the beginning of another,
far superior, in my view.
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 01:04 PM
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For me, when I think of death, it is simply an escape route, an attempt to have control of my life in an otherwise unpredictable, unchangle world.

Death can be romantic, but LIFE CAN ALSO BE ROMANTIC.

When I was in high school, coming out of a bad spell of depression, I remember telling my friend as we were walking through the halls, I am still not sure if I want to go on living. And I wasn't. Somehow I came to appreciate life the way I romancized death.
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 01:20 PM
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Um, romantic? Not at all. Depending on how death comes, it might be a calm passing from (this) life--or at least it might *appear* that way outwardly. We can't know what those supposedly peaceful (by appearance) people might be experiencing in those last moments.

I have been with several people, all of them very elderly, who were right at the threshold of death. I wasn't there precisely at the proverbial last breath, but within minutes on either side. Some of those experiences were quite profound.

But I have also been with much younger people who were losing their battles with devastating illness and surgical complications, and it was anything BUT peaceful or romantic. There was no noise, no making of scenes or anything like that. But the vibe in the room was totally different.

Furthermore, I have held many four footed family members as they passed on, thankfully all at advanced ages and given a calm end by a wonderful vet. There's nothing romantic about it, just sad. Loving, yes. Romantic, hell no.

The romanticization of death is IMNSHO a dreadful lie. It's too bad that in many Western countries we are so separated from the death process. I think we could all benefit from a closer connection with the dying and the recently dead. We would harbor far fewer foolish ideas and maybe live a bit more mindfully.
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 01:55 PM
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Death is only romantic to the living. I suspect it's impossible to appreciate the romantic aspects when one is dead. And yes, this is a subject I've thought about a great deal.
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 04:36 PM
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No. Death is only romantic in the movies and warped imaginations.

In real life, death is tragic, disturbing, devastating and often debilitating for surviving friends and family.

When that death is caused by the person's own hand, it leaves horrible, permanent scars on the psyche of friends and family who beat themselves up wondering if they could have done anything else for their dead loved one. In that case, not only is death not romantic, it is just cruel.
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 04:41 PM
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i've never thought of death romantic.

but it's given me something to think about- you know..... actually, i suppose it is.

like in romeo and juliet, romeo dies to be with juliet... but correct me if i'm wrong, juliet's not actually dead- romeo just thinks she is

it's been ages since i read shakespeare
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 05:44 PM
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Yes, Winter4me, and it's the end of one form of life and the beginning of another,
far superior, in my view.
Well, I guess it is if you believe in some kind of afterlife. Myself, I don't find the concept of rotting away and being eaten by worms either romantic or superior.
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 05:54 PM
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Well, for me, GreyThinker, your imagery of death would make me want to get the he#% out of there and be on to the next world and its beauty.

Please read "Around the Year With Emmet Fox" for interesting views on the subject.

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Old Jan 23, 2013, 06:21 PM
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Well, for me, GreyThinker, your imagery of death is what would make me want me to get the he#% out of there and be on to the next world and its beauty.

Please read "Around the Year With Emmet Fox" for interesting views on the subject.
Thanks for you comments, genetic, I wish I could share your faith in something more but one of the things that causes my depression is the inability to believe that. I used to, but losing that faith has meant I no longer have hope in anything. Yes, it is as harsh and horrible a feeling as it sounds. I read stuff all the time but nothing hits that hollow inside me. I simply can't romanticise death or see anything in it except an ending. Sorry.
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 08:12 PM
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Yes, losing faith is a sad thing, IMHO.
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 08:25 PM
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I don't want to sound mean, but where did the idea come from about death being romantic? Just curious.

I wouldn't find death to be romantic, and it never occured to me that it could. However, I welcome death in itself more than having to exist before it happens - like not being able to do things for myself or being in constant unbearable pain or illness.

About a year-and-a-half ago, I came close to being killed instantly. I was riding my bike when it almost happened. I was about 200 yards from entering an intersection with a traffic light that was green for quite a while. I was about 10 yards from the intersection, still going, when I saw a big SUV crossing the intersection on the side where the light was red. The SUV was not trying to beat a red light from it being yellow, it just was not paying attention to the red light. So, only if I were at that intersection 10 seconds earlier, I would have been struck and not known what happened.

But the SUV hit a car that proceeded ahead of me. The car spun around and the SUV skidded, spun, and then flipped over. All of this right in front of my eyes! Some metal from the impact got flying around me, but nothing hit me.

After that I got thinking, my goodness I could have been in heaven by now! At least that's what I believe in. As far as romance and death is concerned, I've been told that there's no sex and marriage in heaven (sorry, that's my depression talking {LOL}).

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Old Jan 23, 2013, 08:43 PM
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Death is often romantiCIZED. That doesn't mean that it is romantic by nature. We can imbue whatever properties that we like on the process.

Personally, I went through a period where I found death to be absolutely euphoric. I was at serious risk of suicide not because I needed to escape my life, but because the concept was almost like a drug for me. I stayed for my loved ones and eventually got over it. I've also had times where death seemed absolutely sick and frightening to me. These are more reflections of my own mind than innate concepts of death itself.

When viewing death from the outside, it just feels quiet. There is this absolute stillness which swallows the atmosphere and seems to take something with it. I don't know if this is spiritual or just my own mind once more.
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this isn't a suicidal post. i just want to know if other people's opinions on the romantication of death. I think this especially applies when love and broken hearts are involved. What are your thoughts on this?
There have been a lot of movies made that may share that opinion. A theme that happens in many cultures.

But my life is not a movie and as much I can try to share the idea, the few I know would say death is not romantic. That's what I have been made to understand.
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 07:52 PM
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I have known some people who romanticized death. For that reason I could never feel truly comfortable with them but one I cant help but love very much.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 11:23 AM
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this isn't a suicidal post. i just want to know if other people's opinions on the romantication of death. I think this especially applies when love and broken hearts are involved. What are your thoughts on this?
Yea i think it is, maybe because im a little messed up lol.... i have been in a 2 year relationship and feel like dieing... i know i cant do it.... but that side of me is getting stronger and stronger...
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No.... Lost way too many folks....
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I don't think Romeo and Juliet liked it much at all.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:17 PM
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I don't think Romeo and Juliet liked it much at all.
Thats far too funny
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Old Jan 26, 2013, 12:41 PM
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I don't want to sound mean, but where did the idea come from about death being romantic? Just curious.

I wouldn't find death to be romantic, and it never occured to me that it could. However, I welcome death in itself more than having to exist before it happens - like not being able to do things for myself or being in constant unbearable pain or illness.

About a year-and-a-half ago, I came close to being killed instantly. I was riding my bike when it almost happened. I was about 200 yards from entering an intersection with a traffic light that was green for quite a while. I was about 10 yards from the intersection, still going, when I saw a big SUV crossing the intersection on the side where the light was red. The SUV was not trying to beat a red light from it being yellow, it just was not paying attention to the red light. So, only if I were at that intersection 10 seconds earlier, I would have been struck and not known what happened.

But the SUV hit a car that proceeded ahead of me. The car spun around and the SUV skidded, spun, and then flipped over. All of this right in front of my eyes! Some metal from the impact got flying around me, but nothing hit me.

After that I got thinking, my goodness I could have been in heaven by now! At least that's what I believe in. As far as romance and death is concerned, I've been told that there's no sex and marriage in heaven (sorry, that's my depression talking {LOL}).
Wow that should've been shocking seeing all that happen in front of your eyes... im shocked just to see a little traffic accident.
And well, to answer your question, if you just think about it, in certain situations like where you give your life to save another person you love it would be the ultimate sacrifice wouldn't it? well romance is a really complex thing..i wouldn't be able to explain it but i just know when i feel it
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