these arn't related to me or something, but i've been thinking about them... and would like to know what you think of them:

1. does 1 person saying to a suicidal person " oh, i'd be sorry if you wern't alive" really help?. even if the person who says it does not know the suicidal person?

and 2. do you think we ever lose hope?

why do people who have nothing, and no reason to live, constantly reach out for support- where is the cut off point?

i was thinking about these questions today... as someone asked me edarlier why i still post to forums when i know full well that my life's so empty

i'll post my views, but first i'll hear what you guys think

I don't know if my answers would help, but here it goes.

1) I don't think it would help me much if someone were to say " oh, i'd be sorry if you wern't alive". If someone has to say that to me, then I would feel that person does not meet my needs very well. However, even though I have thought at times that I would be better off if I was not around, I never would have the guts to do it.

2) The area in my life that I am hoping for is that my social life would be much better than it is now. I just have one friend and he's not all that great. He has a good heart and tries, but he's not someone I'm crazy about.

Especially now in my life as I've gotten older and never been married, my hopes seem to be fading away more each day as having a special someone or good friends. I feel that it's the combination of me being as I am (introverted and shy) and for what is available out there.

I hope this answers your question.

[Sam2]

Originally Posted by shattered sanity

these arn't related to me or something, but i've been thinking about them... and would like to know what you think of them:

1. does 1 person saying to a suicidal person " oh, i'd be sorry if you wern't alive" really help?. even if the person who says it does not know the suicidal person?

and 2. do you think we ever lose hope?

why do people who have nothing, and no reason to live, constantly reach out for support- where is the cut off point?

i was thinking about these questions today... as someone asked me edarlier why i still post to forums when i know full well that my life's so empty

i'll post my views, but first i'll hear what you guys think

If someone I knew told me they would be sorry if I committed suicide, it would depend on who it was talking. Someone who has never experienced it, no, it wouldn't make much difference. If it were someone who had been there, then I'd take it into consideration.

There are times that we all lose most of our hope. The fact that we are still here means that deep down, some spark of hope remains. People say that it is cowardly to committ suicide. I doubt they have ever tried. If you can honestly say that you would let a stranger break into your house, come up to your room and stab you to death and you wouldn't fight or even feel fear, then I guess you would have lost hope. I don't know many people who could do that though.

Personally, I think we reach out because we need to feel that the place we are in is not specific to just us. The knowledge that there is someone around that understands how we feel gives comfort, even if it isn't as much as we would like. There is nothing more annoying than someone telling you that they understand when they have never had a serious bout of depression before.

I tend to equate it to being a war veteran. When someone comes back from fighting and has seen autrosities that most of us can't even imagine, they don't want to talk about their experiences to civilians who have never served. Put them with other veterans who have been in combat though, and they will talk. We reach out to those who know what we have lived through. It doesn't matter whether our experience was the same, just that we have stood on the edge of death and considered stepping over.

Sam2