Home Menu

Menu



advertisement
Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Arha
Member
 
Member Since Jun 2013
Location: in between
Posts: 231
11
38 hugs
given
Default Aug 19, 2013 at 09:19 PM
  #1
I was made very upset while ago when there was a news story about the reduction in inpatient care in this country, and how this has resulted in the police getting very busy at times dealing with the mentally ill. They implied that people who were suicidal were wasting police and ambulance staff time, when they should be dealing with "real problems".

I don't hear people saying that about those with terminal cancer being a burden, or those who have car crashes. Depression can be terminal too, and it can be just as hard to live with as cancer is, and it is a very real problem. It may not look as obvious to others, but people with it need help just as anyone with any serious health issue does.

When people call for help, it is because they need it.

Sorry, just had to vent a bit.
Arha is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
 
Hugs from:
Anonymous33150, ba.ll.oo.n, bharani1008, H3rmit, online user, Rohag, Samanthagreene, shortandcute, tigersassy
 
Thanks for this!
akekaomen, AnnaBegins, anneo59, ba.ll.oo.n, bharani1008, gracez, H3rmit, HealingNSuffering, jitters, online user, Perfectly Broken, Rohag, Samanthagreene, shortandcute, tigerlily84, tigersassy, tokiwartooth, WorkInProgress16

advertisement
Grey Matter
Magnate
 
Grey Matter's Avatar
 
Member Since Jul 2013
Location: hippocampus
Posts: 2,379
11
962 hugs
given
Default Aug 19, 2013 at 09:37 PM
  #2
You have a bright mind and you're thinking on the right path.

I am a mental health advocate. I write for a mental health journal, and I usually write about the stigmatization of mental illness in a modern culture. The problem, as I have come to learn, is that society views us as not ill, but rather a burden. Which is ridiculous as we ARE ill and, for those of us who have the privilege, ARE treated by DOCTORS. Mental illness is an illness of the mind. The mind is what runs are bodies. What people, ignorant people, tend to forget is that the mind runs are bodies. When we are mentally ill; it reeks havoc onto our bodies. When we are depressed, we don't sleep right. We don't eat right. Our breathing is even different. Mental illness causes physical issues as well.

Us mentally ill people; we are warriors. We have to fight against those who tell us (stupidly) that it is all in our heads. We have to fight against these horrid stigmas that pollute all the GOOD that is happening within mental health advocacy. We are warriors because we are brave. We face this every day, and we keep living. And that is more than a lot of people can handle. Ever.

In this society; being mentally ill is an "excuse". And we all need to start proving them wrong. You wouldn't deny a diabetic their insulin, would you? So why deny the mentally ill emergency care when needed?

As for the police BS (not you, them) I worked on a suicide hotline. Rarely did we call the police, but rather hospitals for their ambulances and their excellent psychiatric care. Believe nothing they say as it is usually a lie. We matter like the rest of those who are chronically and terminally ill. Sadly, there are no marches for us, no commercials for our advocacy, and no fund raisers in major supermarkets. We need to work together to break the stigma. And I do believe we can.

__________________
“You are so brave and quiet I forget you are suffering.”.
Grey Matter is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
 
Hugs from:
anneo59, bharani1008, online user, Samanthagreene, tigersassy
 
Thanks for this!
anneo59, Arha, bharani1008, dandylin, gracez, jitters, online user, Perfectly Broken, photostotake, Pierro, Samanthagreene, shortandcute, tigerlily84, tigersassy
shortandcute
Grand Magnate
 
shortandcute's Avatar
 
Member Since Aug 2011
Location: Washington State, U.S.A.
Posts: 3,169
13
2,427 hugs
given
Default Aug 19, 2013 at 10:00 PM
  #3
It irks me to no end how people treat those of us who have mental illnessEs! We're just faking it or lazy or whatever.

__________________
"Sometimes you have to hit rock bottom before you can see the top." -Wildflower

http://missracgel.wixsite.com/bearhugs
shortandcute is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
 
Hugs from:
anneo59, bharani1008
 
Thanks for this!
anneo59, gracez, online user
Arha
Member
 
Member Since Jun 2013
Location: in between
Posts: 231
11
38 hugs
given
Default Aug 19, 2013 at 10:30 PM
  #4
Thanks for that.
Here, the police are called sometimes as first responders to people feeling suicidal, and they do receive some training in how to deal with those feeling suicidal. In fact there is a police webpage that says to call them if you know someone is feeling suicidal who you cannot help. Perhaps they have this role because NZ police are still seen by many as helpful officials rather than punitive enforcers, and for the most part they fit that image. They also have a webpage with information on missing persons and suicide
Because the system and funding for dealing with the mentally ill is stretched thinly, many who need inpatient care, such as those needing to be monitored 24 hours such as a suicide watch, simply cannot be accommodated, so they do get seen by police when things get to desperate state, and there is no one else available. There is a older article about this problem here.

My upset was not at the police in general, but at those in the police or in the media who do not see mental illness as a real issue, as shown by the journalist who wrote this article, and the police officer quoted in it. Thankfully, this is not everyone.
Interestingly, a lot of responses to that article expressed the same concerns as I had.

Teenidle: because of your background, you may be interested in this story about how a forum moderator in the USA got the police in NZ to contact someone in NZ who was feeling suicidal.
Arha is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
 
Thanks for this!
anneo59, gracez, online user
bharani1008
Veteran Member
 
bharani1008's Avatar
 
Member Since Sep 2012
Location: India
Posts: 565
12
797 hugs
given
Default Aug 20, 2013 at 07:47 AM
  #5
Teen Idle. In the States it's shameful to have a mental disability. It can prevent you from having a job and make it hard to find a place to live. It's necessary to keep it secret because you a judged guilty without a jury. It can be costly to fight it. How do you do it? Is there an organization that helps you? Even education can be difficult because some young people can over react when they have these conditions described to them. Unless you are an overachiever you just don't count.
It's unfair and unsafe. People with mental conditions are fighting on so many fronts. There is the genetics issue, toxins and allergies, and abuse of all kinds. It's just beyond the imagination of anyone who has not had first hand experience.
I applaud your crusade. How can I get involved? I'm retired so they can't get me.
bharani1008 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
 
Hugs from:
dandylin
 
Thanks for this!
anneo59, Arha, online user, Perfectly Broken, Pierro
Fuzzybear
Wisest Elder Ever
 
Fuzzybear's Avatar
 
Member Since Nov 2002
Location: Cave.
Posts: 96,467 (SuperPoster!)
22
81.4k hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Aug 20, 2013 at 07:55 AM
  #6

__________________
Fuzzybear is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
 
Hugs from:
anneo59, dandylin, tigersassy
dandylin
Member
 
Member Since Nov 2009
Location: Rocky Mountains
Posts: 451
15
947 hugs
given
Default Aug 20, 2013 at 08:49 AM
  #7
I would never call the police for depression or suicidal thoughts. I live in a small community and it would be devastating for anyone to find out. I wish the stigma weren't there, but unfortunately it is.
dandylin is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
 
Hugs from:
Arha, online user, tigersassy
akekaomen
Member
 
Member Since Jul 2010
Posts: 148
14
21 hugs
given
Default Aug 20, 2013 at 07:52 PM
  #8
This idea that the depressed and suicidal are a burden sickens me. I am trying to find ways to raise money for mental health awareness, research and treatment. I want people to see this as a real chronic illness that those who cope with it are doing so under great stress and deserve credit.
akekaomen is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
 
Thanks for this!
Arha, online user
Dionysius
Member
 
Dionysius's Avatar
 
Member Since May 2013
Location: UK
Posts: 172
11
7 hugs
given
Default Aug 20, 2013 at 08:00 PM
  #9
I think perhaps that the police mean that their time is wasted trying to deal with mental illness because they are not qualified to do so, just a thought, Dionysius.
Dionysius is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
 
Thanks for this!
online user, venusss
henrydavidtherobot
Veteran Member
 
henrydavidtherobot's Avatar
 
Member Since Feb 2013
Location: Chicago
Posts: 748
11
126 hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Aug 21, 2013 at 09:43 AM
  #10
I agree with Dionysus. Though mental disorders are a legitimate problem, I think that comparing it to cancer makes recovery look less hopeful.
henrydavidtherobot is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Grey Matter
Magnate
 
Grey Matter's Avatar
 
Member Since Jul 2013
Location: hippocampus
Posts: 2,379
11
962 hugs
given
Default Aug 21, 2013 at 09:36 PM
  #11
Recovery isn't achievable for everyone, though. I do not believe I will ever achieve "recovered" status.

__________________
“You are so brave and quiet I forget you are suffering.”.
Grey Matter is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
 
Hugs from:
online user
 
Thanks for this!
akekaomen
Arha
Member
 
Member Since Jun 2013
Location: in between
Posts: 231
11
38 hugs
given
Default Aug 22, 2013 at 02:29 AM
  #12
Quote:
Originally Posted by henrydavidtherobot View Post
I agree with Dionysus. Though mental disorders are a legitimate problem, I think that comparing it to cancer makes recovery look less hopeful.
Many cancers are recoverable. It has a reputation worse than it deserves.
Arha is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
ScathachWarrior
Member
 
Member Since May 2013
Location: US
Posts: 29
11
6 hugs
given
Default Aug 22, 2013 at 11:12 PM
  #13
It's so frustrating how society has made people with depression feel ashamed because of it and that they're a nuisance. I went about a year and a half before I could tell anyone about my depression. I started with journaling and in the beginning, even that was incredibly difficult. I felt so much like I would be a burden to anyone I told and sometimes I still do. I've become better with saying truthfully how I am to my close friends, but sometimes I backtrack and lie. I hate feeling like a burden, like everyone would be much better off if I keep my mouth shut, even though it'll mean my suffering.
ScathachWarrior is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
 
Hugs from:
Arha, dandylin, online user
Pierro
Poohbah
 
Pierro's Avatar
 
Member Since Oct 2012
Location: IRELAND
Posts: 1,175
12
656 hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Aug 23, 2013 at 04:08 PM
  #14
Hello Hawkspur, I agree with you 100%. It nearly ended my life a few months ago. Thankfully it didnt. There is so many people suffering from depression but yet it is so stigmatised. Someday I hope things are different, thats why suicide in Ireland is very high. It feeds on isolation. Of course there are other factors. Best wishes to you.

__________________
"The two most important days in your life are the day you were born.... and the day you find out why"

~ Mark Twain
Pierro is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
 
Hugs from:
Arha, dandylin, online user
 
Thanks for this!
Arha
Reply
attentionThis is an old thread. You probably should not post your reply to it, as the original poster is unlikely to see it.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:46 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® — Copyright © 2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.



 

My Support Forums

My Support Forums is the online community that was originally begun as the Psych Central Forums in 2001. It now runs as an independent self-help support group community for mental health, personality, and psychological issues and is overseen by a group of dedicated, caring volunteers from around the world.

 

Helplines and Lifelines

The material on this site is for informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider.

Always consult your doctor or mental health professional before trying anything you read here.