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Old Jul 22, 2015, 06:03 AM
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I seem to feel better when I'm in antibiotics. A month later I feel sick all the time and my mood worsens. Anyone else the same?
Or getting sick after you've been horribly upset?

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Old Jul 22, 2015, 06:08 AM
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I seem to feel better when I'm in antibiotics. A month later I feel sick all the time and my mood worsens. Anyone else the same?
Or getting sick after you've been horribly upset?
I know that stress and anxiety can cause physical symptoms. Diarrhea is one I suffer from for some reason. When I was working a job I hated I would "get sick" at least once or twice a week. Since I quit that job, however, I very rarely get sick.

I don't know about bacterial or viral infections, but I've heard rumors that stress can lower your immune response... so maybe? I'll let someone more qualified answer that one.
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Old Jul 22, 2015, 07:56 AM
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I'm not sure I understand how you're using the term "chronic illness" here. Do you have chronic health problems? (I looked at your profile but didn't see any noted.)
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Old Jul 22, 2015, 11:17 AM
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I seem to feel better when I'm in antibiotics. A month later I feel sick all the time and my mood worsens. Anyone else the same?
Or getting sick after you've been horribly upset?
That is a very important clue iheartjacques!

There is a lot of recent work with gut bacteria problems being related to depression and other mental issues. See, for instance,



for an explanation.

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Old Jul 22, 2015, 03:00 PM
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i feel like my resistance to getting sick is lower for sure. after a visit from my parents and all the accompanying stress i had backache, runny nose, stomach problems. i am still getting over it. i think there is a correlation between a sick mind and a sick body. maybe nothing that is very noticeable at first, but after dealing with depression for many years i have noticed i am not as healthy as i once was.
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Old Jul 23, 2015, 04:24 AM
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Lowered immune system, constant coughs and colds, etc. recently had a tonsillectomy. Psychiatrist was saying when there's inflammation in the body, also inflammation in the brain which in turn lowers mood.
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And your primary has ruled out any other physical illness that can weaken an immune system?

It's really the chicken \egg discussion, to be perfectly honest.
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Old Jul 23, 2015, 07:14 AM
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I don't entirely understand the question either. Unfortunately for most of us here Depression is a chronic illness. For some they had an episode and got better and it did not return. ...no surprise there ... Sure, when I am doing well with the depression under control and I get influenza I can get symptoms of depression ... no surprise there. ... Re the gut bacteria its not a new idea. I started reading about that from about 2008. It has been discussed/linked to many problems including obesity. Gut bacteria plays some kind of role in health including mental health ... no real surprise there either ...

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Old Jul 23, 2015, 07:31 AM
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http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...rbate-depress/

Found this. I have MS, I have Depression. At least, from this way of being mindful of the link between stress/bacterial inflammation/depression and trying to keep myself as well as possible, I can watch my emotional health for indicators of an MS relapse, which I do. Just didn't think my stomach and central nervous system were as deeply connected. Then again eastern views on health focus on the core.
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Old Jul 23, 2015, 10:56 AM
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Perhaps this will interest you...

A Novel Anxiety and Affective Spectrum Disorder of Mind and Body-The ALPIM (Anxiety-Laxity-Pain-Immune-Mood) Syndrome: A Preliminary Report. - PubMed - NCBI

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Old Jul 23, 2015, 06:24 PM
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Doesn't look like it amounted to much that is helpful. The 'core' according to the researchers was anxiety. We do not have the full study and without that we cannot comment. Although it looks like somebody did have access to thd entire study and labelled it 'highly biased'. Re depression there have been all kinds of associations observed. Some of the more outlandish have included lack of sunshine or lack of love or decision making. As someone observed here chicken/egg but that is generous in my opinion. Show me some properly done studies or at least some kind of info to back it up or F off.
Pleas note: the last sentence was not directed at the previous poster.
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Old Jul 26, 2015, 06:48 AM
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Doesn't look like it amounted to much that is helpful. The 'core' according to the researchers was anxiety. We do not have the full study and without that we cannot comment. Although it looks like somebody did have access to thd entire study and labelled it 'highly biased'. Re depression there have been all kinds of associations observed. Some of the more outlandish have included lack of sunshine or lack of love or decision making. As someone observed here chicken/egg but that is generous in my opinion. Show me some properly done studies or at least some kind of info to back it up or F off.
Pleas note: the last sentence was not directed at the previous poster.
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Old Jul 26, 2015, 06:51 AM
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Not at all. It was a general comment towards those making ill informed comments about the origins of depression. A statement to society in general.

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