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Old Aug 15, 2015, 09:24 AM
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Understanding mental illnesses
Well consider yourself lucky you don't understand this one. I hope to live the entirety of my next life in complete ignorance of depression and the fact that boards like this even exist.
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Old Aug 15, 2015, 01:02 PM
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Everyone has limitations, the trick is to figure out which ones only exist in your own mind or in the minds of people around you.
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Old Aug 15, 2015, 03:18 PM
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I enjoy talking and helping people.

Sometimes talking is not the best way to help someone, especially if they are struggling with something you don't understand. Sometimes listening and learning is the best approach.

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Old Aug 15, 2015, 06:27 PM
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Sometimes talking is not the best way to help someone, especially if they are struggling with something you don't understand. Sometimes listening and learning is the best approach.

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Old Aug 16, 2015, 10:19 AM
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@lovejoy91 I am still hoping for a response re whereabouts you are getting information on depression.?

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Old Aug 16, 2015, 01:30 PM
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When a person is in the pits of depression, and that is what it is like, it is like a "black hole", there is no way they can pep talk themselves out of it, cheer themselves up, or see the "bright side," A very depressed person has difficulty finding hope. Sometimes it is all a depressed person can do to just get out of bed in the morning. It is not as simple as just changing one's attitude. Every depressed person on this board would choose happiness and contentment if they were able to.

I have struggled with depression for two years now. Prior to that I had times off and on during my adult life when I struggled with depression. Bad circumstances one after another fueled my depression. I know I am better off than many people, however, that is such a small comfort.

I have read self-help books, and currently in therapy and on anti-depressants. Life is a struggle when one is dealing with depression. I am beginning to find the best thing for me is to learn self-acceptance, pray a whole lot, and try new paths in life. Self-acceptance, I think might be a path to peace, which is the best that I can probably hope for.

Everyone is different. What helps one person may or may not help another. My hope and prayers is that we all find that peace and hope.
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Old Aug 16, 2015, 01:32 PM
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So true, and some misunderstand to such a degree that it's incomprehensible to someone with any "sanity"

Indeed, we all deserve love, not further abuse and finger pointing shaming..

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I think depression is hard for people to understand if they have not lived in it. People have empathy, sympathy, and consideration for a person in a wheelchair, and we all should give that wheelchair bound person love. But depression and mental illness is also a harsh disease, but it is a disease that cannot be seen. Therefore we often get misunderstanding rather that sympathy or empathy, if this makes any sense.
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Old Aug 16, 2015, 01:38 PM
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Well consider yourself lucky you don't understand this one. I hope to live the entirety of my next life in complete ignorance of depression and the fact that boards like this even exist.
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Old Aug 16, 2015, 04:11 PM
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"Life is what YOU make it" - things you should NEVER say to a depressed person.

Do you know how hurtful that statement is to someone who is depressed? Basically it is saying - it is 100% YOUR OWN FAULT for ending up where you are, you deserve ALL of it, and YOU are SO ON YOUR OWN in getting out again! You can't imagine the mountain of soul-crushing guilt you pile on this poor person. You know what the saddest thing about that is? That person ALREADY feels that way, and you're just reminding them!

PLEASE consider carefully the things you post in the depression forum from now on.

Depression is a result of a multitude of life factors that has simply combined in a very malefactory way. It is often triggered by horrendous life experiences totally out of the sufferer's control. Sometimes the event is so deeply buried in the sub-concious that it cannot even be identified. It is then fed for years by negative experience after negative experience. Like a drug addiction, it becomes the cornerstone of the person's life, to the point where the original vibrant, creative, loving, happy person is virtually gone, and you're left with an imposter who can barely function.

Have you ever driven or walked in a really thick fog or snowstorm, so thick you can't even see your hand in front of you? At the dead of night? In the middle of nowhere where there are no lights? Without a compass, a map, a phone, a GPS to find your way out again? That's what it's like. And that's putting it mildly. The last thing you want at that point is someone reminding you that YOU were the one that got lost and ended up in this place. That if you just didn't choose to go out that night, none of this would have happened.

And the advice is actually very hypocritical when you think about it. Because in one breath it is saying you should go out and live life, don't be afraid of new adventures, yet what is not mentioned is that that is exactly how you ended up in the "snowstorm" in the first place. Sometimes we seek adventure in life and we fail, and we end up with something we didn't exactly seek. I would never have had depression if I didn't experience the things I did that finally triggered it, yet those things happened because I took a chance to go for something I really wanted in life. I was still lucky. I still went there on my own terms. Then you have people who are "kidnapped" (metaphor for say PTSD for example) blindfolded and end up dropped off in the "snowstorm" and left to die. How can you ever blame them?

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Old Aug 16, 2015, 04:37 PM
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I think depression is hard for people to understand if they have not lived in it. People have empathy, sympathy, and consideration for a person in a wheelchair, and we all should give that wheelchair bound person love. But depression and mental illness is also a harsh disease, but it is a disease that cannot be seen. Therefore we often get misunderstanding rather that sympathy or empathy, if this makes any sense.
I don't think he was directing the statement at you, but at the title of the thread.
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Old Aug 16, 2015, 04:41 PM
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How do you view life? What ways can you improve your life?
I don't have a positive or optimistic answer to that. My view on life...is very depressing.
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Old Aug 16, 2015, 04:51 PM
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Ok. Thank you for posting your prospective.
Not nice is it? When things don't go the way you thought they would and you don't get received like you thought you would. Now you begin to get a taster of what depressed people go through on a daily basis. Let the learning curve begin.
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Old Aug 16, 2015, 04:53 PM
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Everyone has limitations, the trick is to figure out which ones only exist in your own mind or in the minds of people around you.
I think that is what they are trying to do all along. It still doesn't happen overnight, it can take 20 years.
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