[Tauren]

This could potentially change everything.

New Blood and Urine Tests Find 5 Distinct Types of Depression, Researcher Says

A researcher says he has identified multiple types of depression, including three that don't involve serotonin. And he says all can easily be diagnosed with blood or urine tests.

[Fizzyo]

I hope there's something in it, but I will wait to see if more research backs this, I have come across a lot of 'miracle' diagnosis methods and cures over the years which turn out to be less helpful than the original promise. Thanks for sharing, I sure hope/would love it if it does work out.

[Tauren]

Yeah I remember when "Substance P" was going to be The Answer. But hope springs eternal.

[Fuzzybear]

Very interesting article. Thanks for sharing it. I'll follow this and see what happens.

[eeyorestail]

I would love for a simple cause of depression to be found but this article sounds like quackery. Heavy metal poisoning? Most school shootings have been linked to SSRIs?

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[Tauren]

I don't know about school shootings specifically, but SSRIs have definitely been clinically proven to increase suicide in adolescents.

I'll have to use my Google-Fu to find out of the guy responsible for this is a quack or not. There's no link to the actual study.

PS. You can download some of their papers here: http://www.walshinstitute.org/researchstudies.html

PPS. The general consensus is that he's not a quack but that this needs a ton more research and the "5 distinct types" probably doesn't really fit.

[eeyorestail]

Originally Posted by Tauren

I don't know about school shootings specifically, but SSRIs have definitely been clinically proven to increase suicide in adolescents.

I'll have to use my Google-Fu to find out of the guy responsible for this is a quack or not. There's no link to the actual study.

PS. You can download some of their papers here: http://www.walshinstitute.org/researchstudies.html

PPS. The general consensus is that he's not a quack but that this needs a ton more research and the "5 distinct types" probably doesn't really fit.

Google-Fu! I like it.

Thanks for the further research! I'm definitely going to take a look at it.

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[lonely-and-sad]

This is total rubbish. The dead give away that this is a money making scam is when we are told that a physician training program has already been rolled out. Research such as this (blood and urine tests to determine treatment) would take decades for adequate reaearch. And which prestigious journal was this research published in? Quality reaearch is always peer reviewed but apparently this was so good they skipped that and just rolled out their courses.

We are so far from having adequate tests that its just tragic. The best hope is on gene testing and developing treatments from that. But like I said long long way. People such as this guy offering false hope to us should be condemned.

There are plenty of other clues that it is a scam. But the real clue is when you look at the proposed treatments. Vitamins and detoxing from heavy metals but no pharmaceuticals. I wonder why? Lol obviously because if they said to use x or y drug and something were to
go wrong then they would be sued. No drug treatments for a medical condition? Of course not its the lead, heavy metals and vitamins treatment!

I am afraid I have seen all this before. Its not just the medical profession. I worked as a personal trainer and the depressing fact is that there are many courses and 'gurus' promoting rubbish to make money. For example, 15 years ago we were told we were doing it all wrong and we had to go back and stengthen the core before we did anything else or we would injure our clients. Personal trainers were paying big money for micky mouse courses learning how to do just that.

Another example and you can Google this as well. Around a decade ago Charles Poliquin brought out his 'Biosignature'. According to him you could get your clients blood tests and based on those results you could target with nutritional supplements those areas of the body which had higher skin fold measurements. In other words reduce body fat through the use of supplements targeting 'nutritional deficiencies'. And guess who sold the supplements? None other than Charles Poliquin himself. And this is after doing his course for over 1k. I could prove definitively that the skin folds and his recommendations were bogus in many ways such as this: low triceps skinfold measurements equalled good testosterone levels in a man according to Charles Poliquin. Well one client of mine had 2mm ticeps skin folds but his testosterone levels were the level of a woman's. He was referred to an endocrinologist.

I worked in a private training studio and multi disciplinary complementary health facility in Australia for over 2 years before my depression got so bad I left. We had our clients tested for the same things that one member here continues to advise. We were able to improve the physical health and wellbeing of the clients through diet, supplements and exercise. If there was ever a medical condition they were referred. I will concede we were not aimed at depression but i never once saw anyone's depression helped this way.

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