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Old Feb 26, 2016, 12:38 PM
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i noticed People( class mates,friends,etc) don't agree with my talk,opinions or ideas when i talk they just ignore me or they don't consider my words are worth.
these talks include everyday life, politics,education etc. (even i give profs, references when the topic was about education,science ).i dont want they should agree with me.
they know i had depression.my depression caused me anti social, unable to do some studies,and my talking skills,personally skills disturbed .

my class students always made fun of me, bully me when when i was depressed. but now im stronger than my entire class after school days. now i find new friends live my life
but i need some things to be cleared

why did people ignore my opinions , what the reason.

for example - if we talk about a science related topic- river water level and if i mentioned deforestation cause water level drops during summer they dont consider my words but if another person mentioned the same thing it will be accepted by others

i think about my mistakes to clear next time,

Have you ever experienced like this

BTW im ESL
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Old Feb 26, 2016, 12:49 PM
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Maybe if you learn to be more confident with the way you talk (gestures, eye contact, raising a bit your voice) people will listen. You can practice in front of a mirror or with a good friend.

I used to be bullied in high school, now it's long gone and I've changed a lot, like you. It takes time to improve some things, be patient and keep trying every day.

What's ESL?
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Old Feb 26, 2016, 01:00 PM
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Unfortunately, when we're depressed we don't always demonstrably respect and value our own opinions, and when people sense that they naturally fall into line with those actions.

As Serzen suggested, maybe practice speaking more directly, with more authority, that people will perceive it existing? Or if they don't seem to respond to something you've said that you think has greater value than they've realized, you might ask them, "well what do you think about it" etc.

I grew up in a loud family, where everyone is fighting to be heard over the noise, and although I grew up lost in that shuffle, these days I speak with authority and especially when I know it's a topic about which I can make a valuable contribution. They've learned to listen more when I speak because it's hardly ever something frivolous, that I don't chatter endlessly, but more often only speak concisely and clearly about things that help others to get clarity. I think every person has the individual task of having to find their way with communication, how to speak in a way that they're best heard, and teaching those around them how to hear them.

There's an expression "help me to help you" .. you just need to help them to help you, essentially.
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Old Feb 26, 2016, 03:02 PM
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Maybe if you learn to be more confident with the way you talk (gestures, eye contact, raising a bit your voice) people will listen. You can practice in front of a mirror or with a good friend.

I used to be bullied in high school, now it's long gone and I've changed a lot, like you. It takes time to improve some things, be patient and keep trying every day.

What's ESL?
English second Language
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