[MickeyCheeky]

I feel I'm more stupid than the average person.. not that I'm really that good at everything else.. but still. I don't exactly have great marks at school and I have an hard time understanding what other people find simple.. I did a couple of IQ tests online, as well, and I've got a score lower than 100
I don't think I'm really going to accomplish anything in life..

Sorry about the vent

[unaluna]

I think theres something wrong with your testing, seriously. If you can get thru college, that indicates about a 120 iq. If i remember correctly, you are somewhat younger than that. Still, your english is so good (even for an american!), that i would place your score higher than 100.

[MickeyCheeky]

Well, I didn't start college yet.. I'm not sure about those tests, it was a while ago..

Still, thanks for saying my English is good

[bearguardian]

I say all those tests are man made and we have no real idea how the mind works really. And school does not train children to really use their minds, its mostly just memorizing and if you are lucky to have talent for problem-solving. There is so much more to everything.

You are not stupid!

[MatBell]

Yes your English is very good.
Plus you have emotional intelligence (try look it up) and empathy, and in the long run that is much more important in being happy than the standard IQ/Mensa way of measuring intelligence. The important thing is to be a kind, good person, and you've got that down.

As others have said, wow am I impressed with your ability to communicate in a language that is not your own. I have traveled to many places and do not learn other languages easily. I consider my IQ decidedly average and have never had an IQ test. I am a firm believer that we can get "dumber" or "smarter" depending on whether we take care of our health and challenge our minds. I have to admit that some of my "most favorite" (my language skills aren't great) jobs did not challenge my brain. Among them: the Youth Conservation Corp and the Young Adult Conservation Corp. I worked for the US Forest Service planting trees, fixing barbed wire fence, burning old, dry tree limbs, cleaning campgrouds, etc. It took no brains at all--I think I sort of liked that plus working in beautiful places. IQ isn't everything, there is emotional IQ, determination, hand eye coordination (take it from someone who has worked amongst fighter pilots--some of them have high IQs and some of them don't but it seemed like both types could fly their military jets well), athletic ability, musical ability and I bet many more talents people have that can bring contentment and success. You know I enjoy messaging you because I just like you so much and value you.
(If I though of you as "stupid" do you really think I would feel so strongly about your worth?) --this was actually not the "smartest" way to word this--everyone has value and actually "stupid" is calling yourself a name that I don't think we should call anyone, especially you!

[MickeyCheeky]

Thank you both for the kind words I'll admit, I've never heard of emotiona lintelligence before! I didn't know it existed (to further prove my point ). I've never thought of English as a difficult language - it is one of the most important languages in the world, so.. I don't know, I've never thought of it like a big accomplishment :/

But still, thank you all

[Trippin2.0]

You're a gem, there isn't an IQ test in the world that could measure your worth!


IMO, stupid equals willfully ignorant individuals who believe they know everything, that is certainly something you are not, if you were....

Well lets just say we wouldn't get along at all, I have no patience for the willfully ignorant.

[MickeyCheeky]

Thank you, Trippin

It's true, there are a lot of arrogant people.. I can't stand this kind of people
Luckily there are many good people, too, like my friends here at PC

[*Laurie*]

You might have a processing problem, with regard to those tests. From your posts, you seem anything but stupid to me.

I've been personally questioning my IQ and EQ for some time, so I know how it feels.
I am just unsure. Yet one thing I know is IQ will not help you listen to your heart well.
Intelligence is just a tool. Eventually what all matters is Emotional Quality.

[Fuzzybear]

Originally Posted by Vibrating Obsidian

I've been personally questioning my IQ and EQ for some time, so I know how it feels.
I am just unsure. Yet one thing I know is IQ will not help you listen to your heart well.
Intelligence is just a tool. Eventually what all matters is Emotional Quality.

[Clara22]

Originally Posted by MickeyCheeky

I feel I'm more stupid than the average person.. not that I'm really that good at everything else.. but still. I don't exactly have great marks at school and I have an hard time understanding what other people find simple.. I did a couple of IQ tests online, as well, and I've got a score lower than 100
I don't think I'm really going to accomplish anything in life..

Sorry about the vent

Hi Mickey
A quick note just to tell you that IQ tests don't tell much about the intelligence of a person. I am an Ed. Psychologist and dedicated 14 years to learning disabilities before changing the path of my career ( then, I started working on public policy and disability, etc.)
In fact, there are different trends within the domain of psychology of intelligence.
On the other hand, if I took any IQ test to my president I bet also he would under 100. But he is a president, so, would you call him unsuccessful? I wouldn't . I am not from the US.
Sending you a hug

An IQ between 90 and 110 is considered average. We are all better on some subjects more than others. It doesn't mean that we are stupid. Maybe some subjects are not interesting to you, that's why you find them hard to understand. That's all. It happens to all of us.

[MickeyCheeky]

Thank you so much for the kind words
I was feeling pretty low today but reading your comments made me feel a little better Thank you

[Fuzzybear]

I just used some words somewhere else. But am just about to delete them and put a picture up..I wonder how much the feeling of being (insert negative thought) comes from our early childhood, sometimes before we can remember.

I don't think anyone in this thread is stupid

I maybe sound like a hypocrite as I haven't found a good therapist... but good therapy does help with this sort of stuff.. just find a therapist who cares as well as appears to be technically competent

[Sula B]

Originally Posted by MatBell

Yes your English is very good.
Plus you have emotional intelligence (try look it up) and empathy, and in the long run that is much more important in being happy than the standard IQ/Mensa way of measuring intelligence. The important thing is to be a kind, good person, and you've got that down.

No MC - You are anything but stupid.

I so agree with the above.

There are so many forms of intelligence: academic, social, emotional etc. Standard IQ testing is a crock as it is based on the person being tested as being an adult white, middle aged, middle class, American male and there are not many people who actually have the same set of educational, social, cultural and community experiences as that. It is standard testing skewed to one small sub set of human experience and the results cannot therefore be trusted. Trust me - I can test up to 160 on online tests and t has a lot to do with age and broad problem solving experience which can be obtained through time, repetition, experience, workplace etc and if you practice these types of questions you can improve out of sight which means nothing about your level of intelligence. Imagine some of the test questions you've seen being asked of a street kid in India who has never seen the inside of a classroom, been inside a car, seen a map or knows what a cookie is. The fact they can't understand the questions does not mean they are stupid - the questions do not reflect their life experience.

This I what most educational systems do - they do not teach how to think, problem solve, research and look for answers through testing and analysis - they churn out unthinking, sheeplike, zombie memory monsters with no empathy who's only real goal in life is to 'beat' and be better than everyone else so they can feel smart and successful. Most of them couldn't work out how to turn on a dishwasher or understand that their first born wants when its screaming - nobody made them memorise the answer.

Some the most inventive, intuitive, innovative, creative and successful people in this world failed at school, dropped out of college, have 'learning disabilities' (in a conventional education system) and got called a dunce at school (ie Albert Einstein).

Please do not believe your on negative self talk - listen to all the voices here clamoring about your empathy and your strong ability to care about others, your communication and language skills, just to name a few things we have talked about before. You're in your last year of school and the count down is on - I remember feeling that was in my last year. Look to the bright future ahead of you once you're out of that cookie cutter and you have so much time to work out who you are, what you're good at and the things you really enjoy.

You are a very special young person MC - trust all of us here

[MtnTime2896]

Your innate ability to tap into empathy, to see into text and understand, to have the capacity to offer a piece of yourself to everyone here and help pull us up from our cliffs -- hanging on by our finger tips, no less -- I'm sorry but a "stupid" person, they couldn't do that. They couldn't do for me what you have and what you've done for so many here. Mickey, you're smarter than you know and not only that, but you are one of the kindest people I've ever had the pleasure of interacting with.

Nope!

Definitely not stupid!

You've got a big, kind and offer way too much sound encouragement and advice to be stupid!

I didn't do well at math and science at a younger age, and felt something was right wrong with me somehow.

Now I'm in my 50's and some of the stuff I had such a hard time grasping way back then is more easy to grasp now.

I, too, thought I was stupid, but now I think that perhaps that part of my brain wasn't quite developed enough yet to process those things ...

Or maybe the brain's too busy helping us survive whatever fresh hell's we were and are growing up in?

At any rate, and again ... You's not stupid and you's most valuable and important to this community ...

Please don't ever forget that!

Sincerely,
Pflower!

[MickeyCheeky]

Thank you, guys, for all your kind and supportive posts I really hope you guys are right.

[rohshall]

I think I am stupid, too. At work, to my consternation, quite often I do something only to realize how stupid that thing was. But, that said, I think knowing that we are not smart, is itself a sign of intelligence. Because introspection, or gathering feedback from the expressions of others, or thinking about somoething to realize we did it the wrong way, needs some intelligence. Agreed that we are not smart as many folks out there (like 70% of the people I work with), but I see many people who are too stupid to realize they are stupid. And one of them became our president recently. So, it's not quite as bad as we think it is.

[MickeyCheeky]

I'm sorry you feel the same way, too I can definitely relate. But you're probably right