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Old Sep 23, 2017, 10:57 AM
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Hello,

I've been grossly disrespected and mistreated by more than one doctor in real life, and I know others have also

How do you help a professional to treat you with respect and to provide an adequate service?

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Old Sep 23, 2017, 11:28 AM
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Hello,

I've been grossly disrespected and mistreated by more than one doctor in real life, and I know others have also

How do you help a professional to treat you with respect and to provide an adequate service?

Thanks,
Fuzzy
fuzzy what service are you needing right now..
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 02:07 PM
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How do you help a professional to treat you with respect and to provide an adequate service?
This is a critically important and wide-ranging subject.

It may help to approach the doctor or other professional with symptoms rather than feelings. Also, the more documentation the better. "From this date I began experiencing symptom X that increasingly made it difficult for me to perform this specific activity of daily living."

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Old Sep 23, 2017, 02:12 PM
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Hello,

I've been grossly disrespected and mistreated by more than one doctor in real life, and I know others have also

How do you help a professional to treat you with respect and to provide an adequate service?

Thanks,
Fuzzy


sadly, I don't think you can.

it's the world we live in.. some people just take their job to their head

example: you walk in to a cafe, get **** service, and complain to the manager.

unless the manager actually does something (such as fire the employee), nothing is going to change- you're going to walk in to that same cafe next week, and get the same bad service.

same for doctors.
you get doctors who can't diagnose problems properly, you get doctors who overreact, you get doctors who are unprofessional.

in my case, I even had a doctor once who refused to talk about much medical at all

so the options are clear:

you complain about them and the manager takes action- and you find a new surgery, or you keep going to the same one and get the same bad service

do you know what i'm saying

the same applies for any profession at all

a doctor, a cafe worker, someone who works in a bank, a teacher, etc etc
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 02:16 PM
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another thing you need to think about, is that a lot of companies these days hire who ever.

if you can sit in an office and are good with people, you're hired

personality's not that important to most companies, I believe
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 11:24 PM
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How do you help a professional to treat you with respect and to provide an adequate service?
The best example I have from what I've experienced actually has more to do with an oncologist rather than a pdoc or T. I was freshly diagnosed, sent to this chief of oncology and I took my dad along. I was an adult but still only eighteen and I just thought it'd be a good idea. During this initial appointment the doctor, while speaking about me, only looked at my dad. He also didn't care to leave any room for me questioning my treatment. Then the doc and my dad proceeded to try and push me into a signing a 'full disclosure' agreement so my dad could be told everything about everything the doc found. I said I'd take the paper because I felt very backed into a corner.
I never signed the paper. I refused because, after talking with my mom, I realized that this was my treatment, my care, my health and my life. No one else's. I went to my next appointment alone, told the doc I wouldn't sign the agreement. I also told him straight up that I'm the one he looks at, no matter who's in the room, when discussing my health. If he had a problem with that, then send me to another oncologist because I wasn't going to put up with any of it.

This was kind of a pivotal moment for me because this was the first time I ever really stuck up for myself to someone of authority. It was also the first time I didn't let my dad push me into anything. Yeah, I caught a lot of hell for it. At the same time, it taught me to never allow any doctor to treat me this way, again, as it wasn't the only time I've ever dealt with a disrespectful professional. I'm not sure if I got the doc's respect but I got his attention and that was enough for me. I had to fight him on something else, too, but that's another story.
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So Leigheas. That was a very inspirational story. I'm going to remember this story next time I feel like I should stand up for myself.
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Old Sep 24, 2017, 05:25 PM
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I so much appreciate you, and all the regulars here. Thank you for helping to make this Depression forum the caring place it is, and thank you for this inspirational story

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The best example I have from what I've experienced actually has more to do with an oncologist rather than a pdoc or T. I was freshly diagnosed, sent to this chief of oncology and I took my dad along. I was an adult but still only eighteen and I just thought it'd be a good idea. During this initial appointment the doctor, while speaking about me, only looked at my dad. He also didn't care to leave any room for me questioning my treatment. Then the doc and my dad proceeded to try and push me into a signing a 'full disclosure' agreement so my dad could be told everything about everything the doc found. I said I'd take the paper because I felt very backed into a corner.
I never signed the paper. I refused because, after talking with my mom, I realized that this was my treatment, my care, my health and my life. No one else's. I went to my next appointment alone, told the doc I wouldn't sign the agreement. I also told him straight up that I'm the one he looks at, no matter who's in the room, when discussing my health. If he had a problem with that, then send me to another oncologist because I wasn't going to put up with any of it.

This was kind of a pivotal moment for me because this was the first time I ever really stuck up for myself to someone of authority. It was also the first time I didn't let my dad push me into anything. Yeah, I caught a lot of hell for it. At the same time, it taught me to never allow any doctor to treat me this way, again, as it wasn't the only time I've ever dealt with a disrespectful professional. I'm not sure if I got the doc's respect but I got his attention and that was enough for me. I had to fight him on something else, too, but that's another story.
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Old Sep 24, 2017, 05:31 PM
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I think I did get the attention of a very disrespectful doctor irl as well. I did tell him what I thought of him, basically, and didn't go back again
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This was kind of a pivotal moment for me because this was the first time I ever really stuck up for myself to someone of authority. It was also the first time I didn't let my dad push me into anything. Yeah, I caught a lot of hell for it. At the same time, it taught me to never allow any doctor to treat me this way, again, as it wasn't the only time I've ever dealt with a disrespectful professional. I'm not sure if I got the doc's respect but I got his attention and that was enough for me. I had to fight him on something else, too, but that's another story.
You are so right. You really have to be your own health advocate with both your mental and physical health. You also need to be able to stand up to these doctors even if it means going over their heads.
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Old Sep 25, 2017, 06:08 AM
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You are so right. You really have to be your own health advocate with both your mental and physical health. You also need to be able to stand up to these doctors even if it means going over their heads.
very good stuff...we need to take charge of our health(mind/body/spirit)....

so we will need to educate ourselves about the things that will help us recover some....and feel better...
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Old Sep 25, 2017, 09:25 AM
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very good stuff...we need to take charge of our health(mind/body/spirit)....

so we will need to educate ourselves about the things that will help us recover some....and feel better...
Thanks little turtle, I'll update people with any progress, if any, with uk doctors
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Old Sep 25, 2017, 10:21 AM
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very good stuff...we need to take charge of our health(mind/body/spirit)....

so we will need to educate ourselves about the things that will help us recover some....and feel better...
I've found too many doctors over here are lacking in respect. However much I educate myself, talking to a uk doctor rarely helps. I need to be more patient and wait and wait as uk people are so familiar with this waiting.

I tend to downplay my symptoms usually... as so many doctors over react, slam labels on people, and offer minimal "help" even to those in "crisis"
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Old Sep 25, 2017, 10:47 AM
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I've found too many doctors over here are lacking in respect. However much I educate myself, talking to a uk doctor rarely helps. I need to be more patient and wait and wait as uk people are so familiar with this waiting.

I tend to downplay my symptoms usually... as so many doctors over react, slam labels on people, and offer minimal "help" even to those in "crisis"
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I am lucky that my GP seems to be pretty good in this area, but even then she is constrained by the NHS. It is so hard to be patient though, isn't it? When you know that if you had a broken leg, or cancer etc. you would never be told that you could go on a waiting list, but the current waiting time is about 9 months yet it's acceptable to leave people with mental health problems for that long.
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Old Sep 25, 2017, 11:20 AM
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I am lucky that my GP seems to be pretty good in this area, but even then she is constrained by the NHS. It is so hard to be patient though, isn't it? When you know that if you had a broken leg, or cancer etc. you would never be told that you could go on a waiting list, but the current waiting time is about 9 months yet it's acceptable to leave people with mental health problems for that long.
I don't think it's acceptable

I have seen maybe 2 or 3 GP's over the years with a kinder manner and who seem to try to listen within the time constraints, I was even given 20 minutes last time, so it over ran the standard time allocated by 10 minutes.

As I think someone posted in another thread, if the doctor thinks the person isn't likely to be at immediate risk, they have to wait.

It's a judgement call.

I wouldn't like to be a doctor, it's a very hard job although sometimes very rewarding

I have to try to have more faith in the doctors, . This is very hard for me
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Yeah .. faith in doctors irl.. not only hard. Not sure it's even possible for me

But.. I'm "ok"

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