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#41
Um...cancer ravages the body, physically breaking it down until one is incapable with life, unless treatment is done. Even then, it's not a surefire cure to the illness.
Mental illness, while it feels physical, is merely a chemical imbalance that is almost always cured to treatment. To compare cancer to mental illness is like comparing apples and oranges. Two totally different parts of one's being. Besides, cancer kills you by destroying your physical being, whether or not you want it to. With mental illness, it's a choice, and a selfish one. I've seen three of my family members battle cancer and win, despite being on death's doorstep. To compare that horrible disease that I've witnessed slowly and cruelly ravage the body beyond recognition at times, to a mental illness that hardly ravages the body at all? It's very insulting to my family and myself. It's okay to pass away, not kill yourself. One is a choice, the other isn't. I value life, and living and my family too much to want to hurt them with such a temporary solution to a fixable problem. Quote:
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You continue to assume that YOUR mental illness represents everyone's mental illness. Wrong. When you say suicide is selfish, you are adding guilt onto the plate of people already suffering. They ask themselves further what is wrong with them. Why are they so weak and selfish and stupid. You are making their situation worse and all you seem to care about is your own opinion being heard again and again and again. We get it. You don't understand depression and suicide. Your posts on this thread are not supportive or helpful. Why not move along. |
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#43
Further more if this is the kind of "support" people receive here, I'm not sure this place is for me. I will not be back to this thread. I'm disgusted.
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#44
Wow.. this is a support thread...
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Their daughter didn't have a dad to walk her down the Isle on her wedding day. Their son with downs syndrome was left confused on why his dad wasn't around anymore. I suffered from severe depression since middle school, maybe earlier. I was lured into a van by some man and offered beer when I was too small to really understand the danger. I don't have any memories of what happened next. Maybe I was assalted, who knows? All I know is that I've had issues with boundaries ever since. I was mercilessly bullied in middle school to the point where I'd rather die than go face the ridicule at school. I was dealing with my budding bisexuality and the absolutely vicious rumors one girl spread about my female friends and I being sexual with each other. Not true, of course, but the damage was done. I couldn't go anywhere to escape the ridicule and snickering. I was the laughing stock at school. To this day I get instinctively/reflex ably upset when I hear someone laughing near me because of that incident. I had isolated myself so much from that incident, that by high school I'd rather spend lunch time in the school library or if that wasn't an option, I'd eat lunch in a bathroom stall. I skipped lunch more often than not by hanging out in the library though, and as a result, it took a toll on my body. I would pass out if I stood up too fast and had no energy. I was making plans to end my life after senior year when my uncle beat me to the punch, so to speak. It opened up my eyes. I saw the wake of people affected and realized that it wasn't all about my pain and suffering anymore. If I ended my life, I would cause a great emotional and financial toll on my family. Then came the online obsession I had, the rejection, having my heart figuratively torn out of my chest and that was the scariest time in my life, I almost downed my supply of meds, I never was at such a low point such as that. I was chilled to my very core. Literally so numbed and chilled it frightened me. I decided against suicide, the single smartest choice I've ever made, and called a hot line for help. Out came the mobile crises unit and I was taken to a mental heath hospital where I was evaluated. Thankfully, they deemed me mentally sound enough to be treated outpatient. So please, don't assume I don't understand depression, suffering, or suicide. In fact, please refrain from doing that ever again. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and I stand firmly by mine. __________________ MY BLOG IS NOW CONVENIENTLY LOCATED HERE!! [UPDATED: 4/30/2017] LIFE IS TOO SHORT, TOO VALUABLE AND TOO PRECIOUS A THING TO WASTE!! Last edited by TheWell; May 01, 2018 at 08:58 AM.. Reason: removed method to bring within guidelines |
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#46
Please.. stop this argument.
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Wow ................
Saying something like people who committ suicide or have suicidal impulses are selfish and stupid isn't a very supportive thing to be saying ............. I already said my piece further up in the thread so I'll back out of here now and go hide. *slowly backs out of the thread before anything starts* |
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And no, there isn't always a cure to mental illness. Treatment doesn't help 100% of the people who suffer. For instance, not one single medication has helped my depression nor any kind of therapy. Same goes for my hallucinations and especially my PTSD. Yes, I'm still trying much like kept trying when I was sick and the tumor wouldn't go away. I've been told that my depression is treatment resistant. See the similarities? I'm sorry this is insulting to you but, like you, I stand by my convictions. Cancer, mental illness, both are equally dangerous and tragic. And, much like seesaw, I've dealt with a psychotic breakdown that lead me to an attempt. I didn't have a choice. To say that I did is insulting to me. To say that my friend who took their life was "selfish and stupid" is insulting to me and my friend's family. It's not always a choice like you say. __________________ "Give him his freedom and he'll remember his humanity." |
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But you are misguided. Not all depression is curable. Not all is even treatable with meds. And addressing the problem through therapy is extremely difficult. I have tried so many meds and nothing work. I was labeled treatment resistant. I tried transcranial magnetic stimulation, still didn't work. I did PHPs, IOPs, I did residential treatment, I DID EVERYTHING, and I read books, worked with therapists, worked with pdocs, nothing helped. To say it's curable is ignorant. There is no cure for depression. There are some meds that help but they are not cures. We have no idea why one treatment works for one patient and not for another. That's like saying cancer is curable. It's not. It can go into remission, but it's not curable. I'm not saying depression cannot be cured, but we don't know why it is cured for some and not for others. And as for your uncle, he succumbed to a mental illness. I am glad that you are determined this will not be your fate, but please don't judge people, especially here on PC, for not being able to do the same. __________________ What if I fall? Oh, my dear, but what if you fly? Primary Dx: C-PTSD and Severe Chronic Treatment Resistant Major Depressive Disorder Secondary Dx: Generalized Anxiety Disorder with mild Agoraphobia. Meds I've tried: Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa, Effexor, Remeron, Elavil, Wellbutrin, Risperidone, Abilify, Prazosin, Paxil, Trazadone, Tramadol, Topomax, Xanax, Propranolol, Valium, Visteril, Vraylar, Selinor, Clonopin, Ambien Treatments I've done: CBT, DBT, Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS), Talk therapy, psychotherapy, exercise, diet, sleeping more, sleeping less... Last edited by TheWell; May 01, 2018 at 03:45 PM.. Reason: Removed method |
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#51
This thread is upsetting. I thought this was a support forum where people understood mental health issues including suicidality. It’s pretty offensive to say someone should have to live in pain just because other people will be upset. That sucks. That is a ‘reason’ tha isnt about the person at all. As an attempt survivor I am really upset to read this. And there are other threads about it popping up, it just doesn’t stop.
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__________________ What if I fall? Oh, my dear, but what if you fly? Primary Dx: C-PTSD and Severe Chronic Treatment Resistant Major Depressive Disorder Secondary Dx: Generalized Anxiety Disorder with mild Agoraphobia. Meds I've tried: Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa, Effexor, Remeron, Elavil, Wellbutrin, Risperidone, Abilify, Prazosin, Paxil, Trazadone, Tramadol, Topomax, Xanax, Propranolol, Valium, Visteril, Vraylar, Selinor, Clonopin, Ambien Treatments I've done: CBT, DBT, Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS), Talk therapy, psychotherapy, exercise, diet, sleeping more, sleeping less... |
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#53
Actually, cancer IS curable in some cases. My brother had leukemia and it's been in remission for so long it's considered cured. He was lucky.
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I'm also not quite sure why your brother's leukemia is relevant to this discussion about depression. __________________ What if I fall? Oh, my dear, but what if you fly? Primary Dx: C-PTSD and Severe Chronic Treatment Resistant Major Depressive Disorder Secondary Dx: Generalized Anxiety Disorder with mild Agoraphobia. Meds I've tried: Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa, Effexor, Remeron, Elavil, Wellbutrin, Risperidone, Abilify, Prazosin, Paxil, Trazadone, Tramadol, Topomax, Xanax, Propranolol, Valium, Visteril, Vraylar, Selinor, Clonopin, Ambien Treatments I've done: CBT, DBT, Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS), Talk therapy, psychotherapy, exercise, diet, sleeping more, sleeping less... |
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Your words exactly. __________________ MY BLOG IS NOW CONVENIENTLY LOCATED HERE!! [UPDATED: 4/30/2017] LIFE IS TOO SHORT, TOO VALUABLE AND TOO PRECIOUS A THING TO WASTE!! |
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#57
Let's agree to disagree. Re-read the posts here: there is so much pain, suffering and desperation...I am so sorry everyone has been through so so much. So sorry.
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__________________ What if I fall? Oh, my dear, but what if you fly? Primary Dx: C-PTSD and Severe Chronic Treatment Resistant Major Depressive Disorder Secondary Dx: Generalized Anxiety Disorder with mild Agoraphobia. Meds I've tried: Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa, Effexor, Remeron, Elavil, Wellbutrin, Risperidone, Abilify, Prazosin, Paxil, Trazadone, Tramadol, Topomax, Xanax, Propranolol, Valium, Visteril, Vraylar, Selinor, Clonopin, Ambien Treatments I've done: CBT, DBT, Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS), Talk therapy, psychotherapy, exercise, diet, sleeping more, sleeping less... Last edited by seesaw; Apr 30, 2018 at 09:44 PM.. |
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