[Fuzzybear]

“Options” - uk

I typed a reply to someone else which turned into a rant

Fuzzy bear is .......Just a person who doesn’t “deserve” their “help”

I found CBT useless - the practitioner used “blame and judgment therapy” but I doubt if even “good” CBT would help...) and meds not an option

So I suppose I “deserve” their blame ... “beyond help”

Or do I.....

All that shame, all of their (PUs etc) shame and hate. My silence

Slowly ...too slowly, fading out.

[Thirty shades]

((((Fuzzybear))))

You are not ranting. Our distress just has to break out sometimes as we no longer have any more space to store it in our mortal bodies and souls.

We understand you Fuzzy, what a lovely, kind and thoughtful bear you are.

Originally Posted by Fuzzybear

“Options” - uk

I typed a reply to someone else which turned into a rant

Fuzzy bear is .......Just a person who doesn’t “deserve” their “help”

I found CBT useless - the practitioner used “blame and judgment therapy” but I doubt if even “good” CBT would help...) and meds not an option

So I suppose I “deserve” their blame ... “beyond help”

Or do I.....

All that shame, all of their (PUs etc) shame and hate. My silence

Slowly ...too slowly, fading out.

Fuzzy I m ranting too.
My PUs are equally bad. Dad wanted me as his gf and both he and mom beat me up last year when I got agitated due to some med side-effects and was breaking things. They told my pdoc that I had hit them and never said a word about their beating me up. To this day my mom tells me that they had to beat me up bc I was hitting them and they had to save themselves. But it's a lie. I can't work and I don't have money of my own. So I can't move out and live on my own. I have to live in tbe same house with them and depend on them for food and everything else. We don't have disability here. It's so humiliating.
Fuzzy I need your hugs.

[mote.of.soul]

Hi Fuzzy. Please stay strong within mother natures great forest. The pain will burn itself out eventually, I do believe that. Keep the love alive.

Just keep talking and we will be here. You are one of my favorite posters. If I could take away your pain and struggles, I would in a heartbeat. Until I figure out how to do that, I'll still be here to listen.

[SlumberKitty]

Originally Posted by Fuzzybear

“Options” - uk

I typed a reply to someone else which turned into a rant

Fuzzy bear is .......Just a person who doesn’t “deserve” their “help”

I found CBT useless - the practitioner used “blame and judgment therapy” but I doubt if even “good” CBT would help...) and meds not an option

So I suppose I “deserve” their blame ... “beyond help”

Or do I.....

All that shame, all of their (PUs etc) shame and hate. My silence

Slowly ...too slowly, fading out.

I didn't have a good experience with CBT either. By far the most awful sort of therapy I've been in. Maybe it's the T, maybe it's the therapy, I don't know but it was awful.


You do not deserve their blame. Not in anyway. I know it can feel as if you are beyond help but I don't think so. I don't think anyone is unless we just give up. Hugs to you

[Thirty shades]

Originally Posted by Desiree2006

Fuzzy I m ranting too.
My PUs are equally bad. Dad wanted me as his gf and both he and mom beat me up last year when I got agitated due to some med side-effects and was breaking things. They told my pdoc that I had hit them and never said a word about their beating me up. To this day my mom tells me that they had to beat me up bc I was hitting them and they had to save themselves. But it's a lie. I can't work and I don't have money of my own. So I can't move out and live on my own. I have to live in tbe same house with them and depend on them for food and everything else. We don't have disability here. It's so humiliating.
Fuzzy I need your hugs.

Desiree, your situation is dire. We are here for you

[MickeyCheeky]

Originally Posted by Thirty shades

Desiree, your situation is dire. We are here for you

Thanks a lot!

[Fuzzybear]

love to all

[Rohag]

Questions such as this keep me staring at my computer screen again and again. What can a person do when they've reached out for help, but every form of help available to them is ineffective or ridiculously difficult to access?

What actually happens is the person suffers. Individual tolerances for suffering vary greatly, but all suffer.

So, does the sufferer invest their diminishing psychological reserves in continuing to seek the help that previously failed, or do they invest those reserves in trying to survive? Or, do they divide their reserves between those two?

Or, do they seek something untried, even if resistant to location and access?

[marvin_pa]

Originally Posted by Rohag

Questions such as this keep me staring at my computer screen again and again. What can a person do when they've reached out for help, but every form of help available to them is ineffective or ridiculously difficult to access?

What actually happens is the person suffers. Individual tolerances for suffering vary greatly, but all suffer.

So, does the sufferer invest their diminishing psychological reserves in continuing to seek the help that previously failed, or do they invest those reserves in trying to survive? Or, do they divide their reserves between those two?

Or, do they seek something untried, even if resistant to location and access?

I suspect that some will end up here, where they'll at least get a sympathetic ear/eye & possibly some practical advice based on hard learned direct experience.

I just wish I could provide some vaguely practical advice myself, but such things seem as elusive to me as well, right now...

[Fuzzybear]

Thanks for the replies

Warning. Rant :-(

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Possible trigger:

I agree, some might end up here. Where there are hugs and fewer (wrong) labels and more people who use their intelligence Even or especially to admit they “don’t have all the answers” (or even any of the “answers” sometimes (grouphug)

A psychologist straight out of “school” using CBT :-( (thud) What sort of life experience would someone like that have, even if they had the necessary but too
often lacking empathy (sigh) (thud) Yes I’m sure some psychologists straight out of schools are “good” and kind. Maybe most.. of course I “deserved” more abuse And I really hope I won’t still be “talking” about this for “years” since I don’t even want to be on this freakin planet at all (sigh)

Sorry about the rant.

(Btw I do not wish to be “corrected” .. I’m “entitled” to my experience and
opinion like everyone else is. Sorry about the grrrr.. it’s been a grrrrrrr day and
I’m not taking the serokill .. the listed side effects freak me out (sigh)

That psychologist was “right” about one thing.. I’m not “endearing” (sigh) (thud)

[marvin_pa]

taking the serokill

If it makes you feel better, I had to google that, as I couldn't quite believe that the marketing folks had actually released something containing 'kill' in it's name...

[Fuzzybear]

Originally Posted by Rohag

Questions such as this keep me staring at my computer screen again and again. What can a person do when they've reached out for help, but every form of help available to them is ineffective or ridiculously difficult to access?

What actually happens is the person suffers. Individual tolerances for suffering vary greatly, but all suffer.

So, does the sufferer invest their diminishing psychological reserves in continuing to seek the help that previously failed, or do they invest those reserves in trying to survive? Or, do they divide their reserves between those two?

Or, do they seek something untried, even if resistant to location and access?

[Fuzzybear]

Originally Posted by marvin_pa

If it makes you feel better, I had to google that, as I couldn't quite believe that the marketing folks had actually released something containing 'kill' in it's name...

[Thirty shades]

Originally Posted by Rohag

Questions such as this keep me staring at my computer screen again and again. What can a person do when they've reached out for help, but every form of help available to them is ineffective or ridiculously difficult to access?

What actually happens is the person suffers. Individual tolerances for suffering vary greatly, but all suffer.

So, does the sufferer invest their diminishing psychological reserves in continuing to seek the help that previously failed, or do they invest those reserves in trying to survive? Or, do they divide their reserves between those two?

Or, do they seek something untried, even if resistant to location and access?

Dr's and T's struggle with us because there advice and treatment in ineffective. They blame us for this. How can we all be wrong. They are not living with our bodies that make chemicals working against us.

CBT teaches us thoughts, behaviours, feelings etc. are a vicious cycle. We have more to cope with because our feelings are triggered naturally by the abuse we have suffered. That's just human nature and we don't deserve more abuse for our suffering. We are blamed for a lack of recovery because they feel we don't engage with CBT but if anything I over engage with it.

We do a brilliant job at navigating life and keeping our heads down when we need to. We all have to do what we feel is right for us.