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Old May 01, 2019, 11:11 AM
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maybe some help here for depression..
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Old May 01, 2019, 11:55 AM
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I ordered the book just now. Should have it by early next week.
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Give us a summary of his approach. You are uniquely qualified to give us a review of this book. Thanks.
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Old May 01, 2019, 01:37 PM
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maybe some help here for depression..
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It sure is quiet around here these days

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Old May 01, 2019, 02:00 PM
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Please tell us more Little Turtle

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Old May 01, 2019, 05:19 PM
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i am a broken down psychiatrist....
i do not know what is best for any other person...
i like the ornish book...it gives me hope..
it talks about lifestyle medicine...not pills...
4 important behaviors----------------------
eat well
move more
stress less
love more

but i still have my little supply of valium...
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Old May 01, 2019, 07:43 PM
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I think lifestyle medicine, eg self care and being vigilant about changing your life when necessary to improve ones mental health is vastly important. This is especially important coming from a psychiatrist. Meds are not the magic bullet that can magically transform us if we dont take care of ourselves and make the hard decisions.
Thank you turtle, thats just what we needed to know if we should look for the book.
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Old May 02, 2019, 02:57 AM
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i am a broken down psychiatrist....
i do not know what is best for any other person...
i like the ornish book...it gives me hope..
it talks about lifestyle medicine...not pills...
4 important behaviors----------------------
eat well
move more
stress less
love more

but i still have my little supply of valium...
Thank you Little Turtle.

Do you have an amazon link for the Ornish book please?

Valium is different to other meds, it helps where other meds make me worse....
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Old May 02, 2019, 06:00 AM
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i don't know how to do LINKS...not yet
ORNISH has many videos and podcasts on U-TUBE...
also many websites about ORNISH LIFESTYLE MEDICINE...
I hope that we all are helped in some way by doing some of this...
I am going to give it a try...and if it doesn't work I will say so..
I like this lifestyle medicine to help us with depression and anxiety..
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Old May 02, 2019, 07:11 AM
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you can buy the book amazon prime for $14.95..hardcover...
that is cheap...big book...ornish considers depression to be
a chronic disease...
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Old May 02, 2019, 10:19 AM
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the LOVE MORE change part-----
involves social support and intimacy....
how about good friends AS IS...
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Old May 02, 2019, 10:24 AM
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the LOVE MORE change part-----
involves social support and intimacy....
how about good friends AS IS...
I agree little turtle that this is very important
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Old May 02, 2019, 10:41 AM
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the LOVE MORE change part-----
involves social support and intimacy....
how about good friends AS IS...
Love more is important.

We need to love ourselves AS IS
This aids us to love others
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Old May 02, 2019, 12:31 PM
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so many people irl are so hateful...
they try to take others down....
I want to pay attention to love...
not hate...
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Old May 02, 2019, 05:49 PM
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so many people irl are so hateful...
they try to take others down....
I want to pay attention to love...
not hate...
Good post little turtle ....

Much love to you and all here
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Old Mar 12, 2020, 04:17 PM
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We need to UNDO some of the crap in this world

What do you think, little turtle
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Old Mar 12, 2020, 04:42 PM
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We need to UNDO some of the crap in this world

What do you think, little turtle
fuzzy what is at the top of your crap list...

mine is about not hurting other persons...
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Old Mar 12, 2020, 05:21 PM
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fuzzy what is at the top of your crap list...

mine is about not hurting other persons...
I agree, I do not like hurting others

And also I don’t like those who hurt me
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AS IS. That’s the hard part, isn’t it?
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maybe some help here for depression..
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Love and respect to you dear little turtle
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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...................

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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...................

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Old Mar 14, 2020, 03:07 PM
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fuzzy what is at the top of your crap list...

mine is about not hurting other persons...
Mine is about not hurting others

and people who continually make wrong assumptions

and have no sense of humour

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Old Mar 14, 2020, 03:08 PM
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